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the smoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and

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is now in the possession of the army if

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the game is rigged

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change the game game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you're listening to fade to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening

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how you doing

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what is cracking it's fade to block

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bespoke radio for

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the masses

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yeah man let's do this

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tonight is thursday july 22nd 2021.

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304 to 240-300 for 204 days

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into the new year only 161 days left we

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are live from a bunker somewhere

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in the middle of nowhere a total

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location people but it is beautiful

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down

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east and west north and south

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far and near this is fade to black for

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kjccr the game changer network and kgra

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the planet grace hobbs

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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how you doing it's thursday night it is

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fader night

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made this announcement earlier this week

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very excited because tonight

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ron keel is with us he's gonna help me

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man the phones

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that's right it's open lines all night

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long it's your calls your conversation

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ufos conspiracy time travel

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rock and roll the paranormal country

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supernatural and western lost history

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we're going to do it all tonight with

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really looking forward to this and you

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know the deal

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right this is open lines it's unscripted

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it's unscreened it's uncensored it is

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unfiltered all of that certainly applies

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more on ron in just a bit all right

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here in just a bit you can follow me on

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at jchurchradio the sandbox is hashtag

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kg r a the planet the bunker cam

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spreaker kgra so come and hang out the

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always totally interactive all night

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and uh watching the fader knots uh do

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oh racehobbs racehobbs is it

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hold on a minute racehobbs is in the

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racehobbs is in the

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all right race is hanging out

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all right you can also email throughout

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the show jimmy jimmychurchradio.com any

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hashtag f2bq

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the breaking news the breaking news

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china is the first story up tonight

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china just unveiled the prototype of a

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magnetic levitation train it says is

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of 373 miles per hour

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in the world the train self-developed

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king dao hovers above the track with no

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it floats well now i watched the video

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of this today and it sounds unbelievable

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a nine-hour hostage crisis

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the nine hour ordeal reportedly began

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they wanted a helicopter so they could

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escape once the pizza party

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pizza party ended i'm not making this up

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the inmates never got their helicopter

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but they did get their kebab hand tossed

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that's right let's get the show cracking

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happy birthday to today

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david spade david spade is

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is 66. i'm i was thinking today

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what's william defoe's best movie i

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didn't take any notes i was just

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i just want you know what wild at heart

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that's right that's what i went with and

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then danny glover

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today is 75 and i'm thinking what was

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danny glover's best film

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you know and i know what everybody's

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going to think and you know the whole

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cop buddy move no i'm not going there

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the royal tenon bombs john leguizamo

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today is 57 his best film

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i'm going american ultra george clinton

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today get ready for this he is 80.

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bobby sherman is 78 don henley is 74.

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al di miola is 67 and our

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friend reese ethan's today is 54.

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one of the great singers out there right

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now who i really enjoy

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rufus wainwright is 48.

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our dead guy's birthday today is brian

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1953 to 2020 died at the age of 66.

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brian was an amazing vocalist and

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uh he's the guy that ted nugent

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recruited to handle vocals for his

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penetrator album and front its

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world tour and was during this period

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he replaced paul rogers as lead vocalist

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in bad company

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how great of a singer do you have to be

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to be the guy that comes in and fills

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those shoes of paul rogers well you got

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to be great and

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brian was he was in bad company from

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1986 to 1994.

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brian went on to a successful solo

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until his death when he died of a

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cardiac arrest while enroute to a

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in florida on may 6 2020.

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he was just 66 years old on this day in

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1991 i remember this like it was

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cannibal and serial killer jeffrey

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dahmer

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is caught after police officers spot

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tracy edwards running down the street in

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now so they go to his apartment and in

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that apartment

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police found several heads in the

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found two skulls on top of a computer

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and a 57-gallon drum containing several

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bodies decomposing in chemicals in

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jeffrey's bedroom

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on this day in 1991 i'll never forget

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that breaking news i was like you've got

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to be

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what yeah fader fact

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i told you yesterday i had a fader fact

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today

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for sweden and here it is

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the united states has more

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millionaires than sweden

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has people and that

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is your fader fact all right tonight

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very special guest right here with us

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ron keel is going to help me man the

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phones

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excited about this i mean what could go

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wrong

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[Laughter]

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yeah man ron keel is here and we're

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going to be doing

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our normal fader night that's right ufos

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conspiracy time travel the paranormal

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supernatural lost history pop culture

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music food but tonight we're going to

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have a

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serious dose of the rock and roll and

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country and

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western fader night is one of the

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greatest nights in all of talk radio and

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all of the world

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it is totally unscripted uncensored

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unscreened and unfiltered the call-in

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number is 747-228-2051

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and uh i've been lining up calls all

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night

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so yeah the phone lines are open they

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started ringing a long time ago

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all right let me hit this river moon

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coffee

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rivermoonwellness.com

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oh man so uh

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so i was chatting you know ron keel's on

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the show tonight

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and i can't help but be in the rock and

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roll mood

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and um i was checking out some

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music today and we'll get to all of that

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a little bit later but

321
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but i had a a really really fun time

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going through

323
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and listening to some stuff today and

324
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some friends out there sent me some

325
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stuff and

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you know i'm listening to to the rock

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and roll

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and uh and then ron and i are talking

329
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and it got me to thinking i thought you

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know what

331
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the rant tonight i got to tell a rock

332
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and roll story

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and and and i'm sitting here chatting

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with uh

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uh ron and and some thoughts popped into

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and i said to ron i said ron i

337
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i and now i asked ron this question

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earlier

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he didn't really answer it but hopefully

340
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his

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and he'll think of an answer but i asked

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ron i said hey ron ron

343
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back in the day on the strip because

344
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there were thousands of bands back then

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they were just all over the place and

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the competition was

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thick it was heavy and wow

348
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you know and that period from if you

349
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went from like 1982

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all the way up to i'm gonna say 89

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you know right right there that that

352
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seven year period

353
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it was an amazing time on the strip it

354
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was an amazing time

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and it was so magical

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right and i was there ron was there

357
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but you can't force this stuff to happen

358
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it's an accident the sunset strip

359
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you know it's it's funny you know it's

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hair bands

361
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back then it was always this concern

362
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about pay for play

363
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and and and and all of that but um

364
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uh it was by accident

365
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a lot of things led the way but right

366
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up until 1978 79 of course with van

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halen

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you had a really big new wave movement

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that was coming in and there was a punk

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thing that was going on and

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and you had uh you know the rock and

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roll stuff and

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and this was all happening at the same

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time not only on the strip

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but all over los angeles and

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i mean just go watch valley girl right

377
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um

378
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just go watch valley girl so

379
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that you know there were these different

380
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things but 1982 rolls around

381
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mtv you know gets a foothold and

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and hair bands if you want to call it

383
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that rock and roll ended up taking over

384
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the strip

385
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i didn't get out here until uh late

386
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1984.

387
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literally at at a peak

388
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but that peak lasted that that lasted

389
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for seven years and and and the bands

390
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that came along

391
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and we know them now you know poison and

392
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and

393
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of course a motley crew

394
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and all of this was happening now

395
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but the competition

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and and the atmosphere of the strip

397
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was insane but it was

398
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fun and you could go to the strip

399
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seven nights a week this wasn't friday

400
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night this wasn't saturday night you can

401
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go to the strip on

402
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monday on tuesday and

403
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from clark street from the whiskey

404
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clark street all the way up to gil

405
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turner's the liquor store on doheny

406
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right that that two or three block

407
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it was like ten thousand people

408
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packed there's a wide sidewalk it's

409
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eight ten people wide all the way up all

410
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the way back and you would think if you

411
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didn't know what was going on and you're

412
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driving in your car

413
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and you managed to get up there and see

414
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you would think there was some big event

415
00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:47,360
no it was just another night on

416
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the sunset strip so

417
00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:52,960
back to my story all of this stuff is

418
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going on

419
00:21:01,669 --> 00:20:57,679
i'm a guitar player and

420
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and i know everybody everybody knows me

421
00:21:05,110 --> 00:21:04,240
everybody knows each other and all the

422
00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:05,120
bands and

423
00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:06,960
and stuff that that was it was a lot of

424
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fun uh

425
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one big happy aqua net family

426
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but you start to get

427
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into the ebb and flow of

428
00:21:23,990 --> 00:21:21,760
these bands right have you heard of so

429
00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:24,000
and so have you heard about this man

430
00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:26,480
have you seen circus have you seen

431
00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:31,039
you know right hans naughty and um

432
00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:40,789
i start to hear

433
00:21:48,310 --> 00:21:45,120
about this band called warrant

434
00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:48,320
now i don't know the exact

435
00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:53,840
year but i'm thinking it was around 1985

436
00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:57,600
somewhere in there and i go

437
00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:01,280
with uh with my friend rob

438
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:08,070
and the troubadour is packed and it's

439
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packed outside and there's all this

440
00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:12,080
commotion going on

441
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and we go in

442
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:17,760
and the troubadour which is a happening

443
00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:19,840
place it's it's and it's got a unique

444
00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:22,000
set up the stage is really close to the

445
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back wall

446
00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:25,200
you could fit maybe a couple hundred

447
00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:27,200
people on the floor but this the stage

448
00:22:31,110 --> 00:22:29,440
was like equally as big as

449
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is the venue itself and then you had

450
00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:34,159
this balcony up on top so you could get

451
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:36,640
probably three or four hundred people in

452
00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:39,039
there packed out but it was

453
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:40,960
uh if you got that many people in there

454
00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:43,039
it was insane and i saw a lot of bands

455
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:43,520
in there

456
00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:45,919
everybody but anyway so i'm there to see

457
00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:48,159
this band warren and i walk in and it's

458
00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:51,280
packed can't move

459
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:55,600
and uh and and i was

460
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:59,039
by the front door and never i don't even

461
00:23:01,350 --> 00:23:00,480
think i ever really got inside but

462
00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:01,360
anyway by the

463
00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:04,320
i'm on that side of the stage stage left

464
00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:06,480
house right

465
00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:11,520
warrant comes out and i'm expecting

466
00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:16,240
something and i'm just here to say

467
00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:19,520
what i saw on that night with that sold

468
00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:20,000
out

469
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:23,440
place the ban

470
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:26,720
pretty much sucked and and i was

471
00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:29,280
trying to understand what was going on

472
00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:31,200
the screaming girls

473
00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:34,240
but the singer i don't know who he was

474
00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:37,679
i don't i don't remember his name

475
00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:40,960
but not up to snuff in the band the

476
00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:42,400
songs

477
00:23:46,149 --> 00:23:45,200
it was just like i don't i i don't get

478
00:23:50,310 --> 00:23:46,159
it

479
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:50,320
out a plate

480
00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:53,360
i i i just didn't get it and i remember

481
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:54,559
the singer

482
00:23:58,789 --> 00:23:57,919
had on a levi's jacket with a sheriff's

483
00:24:01,909 --> 00:23:58,799
badge on

484
00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:01,919
you know war and

485
00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:06,559
and man i i i didn't get it all right

486
00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:10,880
so then and it must have been i don't

487
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:11,200
know

488
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:12,640
again about the timeline and i'm

489
00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:15,120
probably completely wrong about this

490
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:18,640
but it seems my memory because i was so

491
00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:19,919
blown away by this

492
00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:21,600
my memory was it was like two or three

493
00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:23,520
months later

494
00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:26,880
and uh my friend

495
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:29,200
rob i hope rob is listening right now my

496
00:24:35,269 --> 00:24:32,960
friend rob my guitar tech

497
00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:35,279
and best friend rob calls me and says

498
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:40,789
let's go see warren tonight i was like

499
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:42,000
no

500
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:45,440
supposed to be great

501
00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:49,200
like ah man come on rob so he drags me

502
00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:51,840
down to hollywood we lived in pasadena

503
00:24:58,070 --> 00:24:53,760
drags me down to hollywood and we go to

504
00:25:00,070 --> 00:24:58,080
gazarys and uh

505
00:25:01,830 --> 00:25:00,080
we go in i'm standing in front of the

506
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:01,840
sound board i knew the

507
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:03,760
the sound guy he's my friend he was

508
00:25:11,029 --> 00:25:06,640
running sound for us at the time too

509
00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:11,039
and place is packed packed

510
00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:15,760
and warrant instead of

511
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:19,279
coming out and playing

512
00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:22,799
their first song they open up the

513
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:26,080
dressing room door from upstairs

514
00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:28,320
dressing room doors open their stair and

515
00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:35,350
and they're playing they're all wireless

516
00:25:38,470 --> 00:25:37,840
janie's out front first time i'd seen

517
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:38,480
jenny lane

518
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:40,320
i didn't even know who he was they're

519
00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:43,200
coming down and and they're singing

520
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:46,240
playing steven sweet

521
00:25:54,149 --> 00:25:50,640
the drummer this is my memory

522
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:54,159
um right and they they march

523
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:56,880
down and i was like holy crap that's

524
00:26:02,630 --> 00:25:59,840
that's amazing what a great idea right

525
00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:02,640
and they come down playing marching and

526
00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:04,000
then they come out

527
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:06,640
and then click click click bam and the

528
00:26:13,990 --> 00:26:09,120
lights kick off and they go

529
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:14,000
and i'm listening to a different band

530
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:17,039
and it was inside of and i am

531
00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:19,520
not joking about this it was inside of

532
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:20,400
like

533
00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:24,400
30 seconds i said

534
00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:28,400
this band is going to be huge and

535
00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:30,480
it was janie's melodies it's his

536
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:32,159
songwriting it's his voice

537
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:35,200
but he transformed

538
00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:38,159
the whole band they elevated to another

539
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:39,279
level

540
00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:41,520
they had this choreography going on i

541
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:43,360
thought they didn't do that two months

542
00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:43,919
prior

543
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:47,120
at the troubadour no

544
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:52,880
it was completely transformed and i sat

545
00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:54,720
back now this is what i said to ron

546
00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:56,000
earlier

547
00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:59,120
i back then and and a lot of musicians

548
00:27:01,830 --> 00:27:00,559
were like this we were all friends and

549
00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:01,840
things but man you know what the

550
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:03,120
competition was tough

551
00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:04,960
and you had to be cocky you had to

552
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:06,480
believe in yourself

553
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:09,679
you had to no matter how great you

554
00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:12,000
whoever it was that you were seeing you

555
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:13,440
had to believe that you were better than

556
00:27:18,389 --> 00:27:14,720
these guys

557
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:18,399
yeah it was it was fun but it was very

558
00:27:22,389 --> 00:27:22,080
very competitive and at that moment that

559
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:22,399
was

560
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:25,200
one of the very rare times when i

561
00:27:29,110 --> 00:27:26,880
stepped back

562
00:27:29,909 --> 00:27:29,120
and went i've gotta i've gotta up my

563
00:27:34,149 --> 00:27:29,919
game

564
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:34,159
because this is amazing this

565
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:36,960
is just too much i ended up seeing

566
00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:37,840
warrants

567
00:27:41,350 --> 00:27:40,159
um now this was it this was the

568
00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:41,360
beginning this might have been the first

569
00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:43,200
show with janie lane

570
00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:45,520
and uh i don't you know jump on

571
00:27:49,029 --> 00:27:47,039
wikipedia and look at the history of the

572
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,039
band and the timelines of things but

573
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:51,360
but this is my memory and i ended up

574
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:53,520
seeing them at the country club

575
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:57,039
um uh saw megazarry's and i tried to

576
00:28:03,350 --> 00:27:58,559
catch them as much as i could

577
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:03,360
because this band had it now my memory

578
00:28:06,710 --> 00:28:05,440
was i don't think they got a record deal

579
00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:06,720
for maybe two years

580
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:09,760
a year two years it was a while and they

581
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:12,159
they got their stuff polished by the

582
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time they got to the record deal

583
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:17,520
the other clubs in la were too small for

584
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:19,279
them and they were always they seemed

585
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:20,080
like to me

586
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:22,559
like they were the the house band at the

587
00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:24,159
country club which was

588
00:28:28,149 --> 00:28:26,240
one of the biggest venues there and and

589
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:28,159
ron keel can tell you all about

590
00:28:32,950 --> 00:28:29,760
what it was like playing at the country

591
00:28:37,029 --> 00:28:32,960
club chuck landis country club

592
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and they went to the next level

593
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:39,440
and they were head and shoulders above

594
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:41,120
everything else that was going on at the

595
00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:41,919
strip and this

596
00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:44,320
is i'm telling you this is guns n roses

597
00:28:51,269 --> 00:28:45,039
era

598
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and this stuff that was going and

599
00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:53,919
and that was that was the band that

600
00:28:57,029 --> 00:28:56,159
really flipped me out guns and roses was

601
00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:57,039
great

602
00:29:00,870 --> 00:28:59,039
and and i really dug them and the rock

603
00:29:01,830 --> 00:29:00,880
city angels they were great and i really

604
00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:01,840
dug them

605
00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:04,799
but it was it was warrant that really

606
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:07,360
really flipped me out and to see them

607
00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:09,520
uh go through this transformation it was

608
00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:10,399
incredible

609
00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:12,559
so that's just a memory of the strip i

610
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:14,320
wanted to share that with all of you

611
00:29:19,669 --> 00:29:17,440
it was it was it was just magic

612
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:19,679
it was just magic and it's a time and a

613
00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:21,120
place that

614
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:24,720
that is gone it'll never be back

615
00:29:29,269 --> 00:29:26,960
it was an accident i would love to see

616
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:29,279
it happen again but it was an accident

617
00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:31,200
and uh you know what was next was

618
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:32,880
seattle and we've

619
00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:34,720
seen these things go back and forth

620
00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:36,960
between the coasts and around the world

621
00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:39,200
um uh different cities around the world

622
00:29:42,070 --> 00:29:40,880
that start to influence everything that

623
00:29:45,269 --> 00:29:42,080
was out there

624
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:45,279
but i was there in the strip and it was

625
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:45,520
uh

626
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:48,320
incredible it was warrant and with that

627
00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:48,720
let's

628
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:51,039
take our first break because when i come

629
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back

630
00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:55,600
ron keel ron keel is here steeler keel

631
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and of course the ron keel band he's

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gonna help me man the phones tonight

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i've got calls on hold

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should say to call in

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742
00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:24,230
all right welcome back fade to black i

743
00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:26,400
am your host jimmy church it is thursday

744
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:28,000
night fader night but

745
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:30,000
not just any fader night tonight we've

746
00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:31,920
got ron keel joining us

747
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:33,520
he's gonna help me man the phones take

748
00:35:40,630 --> 00:35:38,000
your phone calls 747-228-2051

749
00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:40,640
and uh all the normal conversation that

750
00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:42,960
we normally have

751
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:45,839
but ron is here and this is the thing

752
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:46,160
and

753
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:51,040
that ron was on the show with us

754
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:53,200
and ron and i talked a couple of times

755
00:35:58,069 --> 00:35:54,720
that week and

756
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:58,079
we spent my memory we spent hours on the

757
00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:00,960
phone talking conspiracy and ufos and

758
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:03,040
and ron going so jimmy what about jimmy

759
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:04,000
what about i'm like

760
00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:06,800
how do you know all this stuff ron it

761
00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:08,560
was absolutely incredible it was a great

762
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:09,599
night on the show

763
00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:12,720
and ron and i were talking last week and

764
00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:15,760
uh or was it earlier this week and said

765
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:17,280
hey man let's do another fader night

766
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:18,800
together he said absolutely

767
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:20,960
i'm off the road i'm at home let's do

768
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:22,160
this so

769
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:24,400
ron is joining us tonight i'm not going

770
00:36:29,430 --> 00:36:26,160
to get into uh

771
00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:29,440
the two-hour ron keel bio but i will say

772
00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:31,119
from the first steeler album

773
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:33,680
ron keel's 35-year career has taken him

774
00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:35,839
from the concrete jungles of arena rock

775
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:38,079
to the dirt roads of country music he

776
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:40,240
has sold millions of records he has

777
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:41,520
toured the world

778
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:44,560
both as a heavy metal screamer

779
00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:47,040
his words not mine and a southern rock

780
00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:48,960
outlaw country artist

781
00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:50,720
and i'm very excited about this i want

782
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:53,119
to say welcome back to fade to black ron

783
00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:55,040
keel how are you tonight

784
00:36:59,589 --> 00:36:57,520
i am fired up to be back on fade to

785
00:37:01,430 --> 00:36:59,599
black thank you jimmy for the invitation

786
00:37:03,109 --> 00:37:01,440
thank you to your audience for welcoming

787
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:03,119
me and i hope that everyone enjoys this

788
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:04,320
as much as i plan to

789
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:06,000
oh man it's gonna be great ron it's

790
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:08,640
gonna be great and see the thing is

791
00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:11,920
um you and i talking

792
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:15,200
on the phone and you know we have

793
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:17,680
so many mutual friends and things but

794
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:18,640
you and i

795
00:37:25,030 --> 00:37:22,000
are just able to you know talk music

796
00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:25,040
or or ufos or guitars

797
00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:27,920
uh uh it was funny earlier this week you

798
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:29,440
know you're telling me about a midi

799
00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:30,960
acoustic guitar

800
00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:32,560
that you have and then we swing over to

801
00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:34,240
ufos and that's

802
00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:36,480
that's what we can do together man and i

803
00:37:40,390 --> 00:37:38,880
just really appreciate it so much fun

804
00:37:42,069 --> 00:37:40,400
well i appreciate it too jimmy you know

805
00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:42,079
i know we met back in the day

806
00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:44,000
in the parking lot of the sunset strip

807
00:37:48,069 --> 00:37:45,280
and by the way

808
00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:48,079
that uh opening segment was probably the

809
00:37:51,589 --> 00:37:48,560
best

810
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:51,599
description anyone could ever get of

811
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:52,800
what it was like

812
00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:55,760
back then back in the day in the 80s on

813
00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:57,119
the sunset strip but

814
00:38:01,349 --> 00:37:59,599
you know i met a lot of people back then

815
00:38:02,550 --> 00:38:01,359
i became a jimmy church fan when you

816
00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:02,560
were guesting on coast

817
00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:05,599
coast am and and i'm a huge fan of what

818
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:06,320
you do

819
00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:09,599
and uh those radio broadcasts that

820
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:10,880
you've done through the years have kept

821
00:38:14,310 --> 00:38:12,960
me company on a lot of long road trips

822
00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:14,320
and flights and

823
00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:16,079
when you reached out and got in touch

824
00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:17,440
with me we we did find

825
00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:20,320
a lot of common ground i'm a fan first

826
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:21,760
i'm a card carrying

827
00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:25,119
t-shirt wearing uh bait or not i'm a

828
00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:26,720
premium subscriber

829
00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:28,800
and i am just like the rest of your

830
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:30,320
audience we're all looking for the truth

831
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:31,680
and we like talking about it and

832
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:32,560
hopefully

833
00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:35,280
uh joining in that search for the truth

834
00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:36,000
together

835
00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:38,480
you know um and and and i do want to

836
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:39,040
talk

837
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:41,359
you know some rock and roll tonight and

838
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,960
you heard the opening segment so you

839
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:44,640
know where i'm going to swing this

840
00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:47,839
in just a bit but um

841
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:50,560
you well the audience but ron you can

842
00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:51,200
see

843
00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:54,640
what is behind me right and

844
00:39:00,630 --> 00:38:57,920
and and that's my world you know and

845
00:39:01,589 --> 00:39:00,640
and yes i'm here every night my my

846
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:01,599
passion is

847
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:04,560
is seeking the truth and and everything

848
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:06,720
that is unexplained out there i enjoy it

849
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:07,760
so much

850
00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:10,160
but i need to keep my roots you know and

851
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:11,280
that's that is

852
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:14,640
what is behind me and it is just

853
00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:18,640
absolutely bizarro to me that you and i

854
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:21,520
are like identical brothers man it's

855
00:39:28,870 --> 00:39:22,160
just

856
00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:28,880
well i think it's fantastic and you have

857
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:31,520
been uh as a broadcaster myself hosting

858
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:33,520
my own radio show syndicated for 12

859
00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:34,800
years plus spending

860
00:39:38,069 --> 00:39:37,119
a few years on live daily terrestrial

861
00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:38,079
radio

862
00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:40,160
i take a lot of cues from my heroes and

863
00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:42,160
you're one of them and so i i've i've

864
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:45,119
uh i've ripped you off many times it's

865
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:45,440
it's

866
00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:48,480
doc and twitter is to my left

867
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:51,359
all that stuff man gene simmons taught

868
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:51,839
me

869
00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:53,920
only steal from the best so i've bought

870
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:55,280
a lot of cool stuff

871
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:57,839
from your game my friend man i i think i

872
00:40:01,430 --> 00:39:59,680
you know what i've written a couple of

873
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:01,440
songs that uh were certainly

874
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:04,079
uh lifted from you too as well so now

875
00:40:08,829 --> 00:40:05,040
that we both come

876
00:40:12,550 --> 00:40:08,839
clean right okay right on um uh

877
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:12,560
but our conversation earlier tonight

878
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:15,119
um and and we talked about warrant and

879
00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:17,200
and and i just went back and relived

880
00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:20,720
that memory and a memory that i could

881
00:40:24,309 --> 00:40:21,680
have continued

882
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:24,319
on you know because it was just another

883
00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:24,960
night

884
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:27,760
on the strip in in hollywood this is the

885
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:28,880
way that it was

886
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:31,200
but i'm gonna throw that question back

887
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:32,640
at you because

888
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:35,040
you had i i know that you had difficulty

889
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:36,880
answering it because hey

890
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:38,880
there was a lot of talent on on the

891
00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:40,400
strip back then

892
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:43,839
but b all of us were

893
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:46,400
very focused on our own careers and our

894
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:48,079
own band and if you didn't think you

895
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:49,119
were the best

896
00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:50,480
then you didn't have a place on the

897
00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:52,720
strip it just that's just the way that

898
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:53,599
it was

899
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:56,960
but ron back in the day

900
00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:01,359
was there a band that impressed you

901
00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:02,960
that's a really tough question i knew

902
00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:04,480
you were going to ask me that again once

903
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:05,760
we got on air

904
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:08,960
jimmy but you know we were impressed by

905
00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:11,359
a lot of them but we felt we had

906
00:41:15,829 --> 00:41:13,520
something special too and it's it's

907
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:15,839
looking back now i have a different

908
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:17,440
perspective but at the time we were

909
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:18,720
extremely

910
00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:20,560
cocky we walked into every club with a

911
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:22,160
big chip on our shoulder we were the out

912
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:23,839
of town guys from nashville trying to

913
00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:24,960
take over that

914
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:27,599
la slash hollywood scene so there were

915
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:29,520
bands that i enjoyed seeing

916
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:32,160
uh rat black and blue quiet riot great

917
00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:32,800
white

918
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:34,240
and so forth and then there's certain

919
00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:36,640
bands like you mentioned with warrant

920
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:39,200
where you knew when you saw them they

921
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:40,160
were gonna be

922
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:43,200
big time uh i think obviously motley

923
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:44,240
crue comes to mind

924
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:47,280
kevin dubrow was one of those people

925
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:49,599
that when i first saw kevin

926
00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:51,520
we became good friends later in in

927
00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:53,040
through the years and toured together

928
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:55,599
and such but this was between versions

929
00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:56,880
of quiet riot

930
00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:59,119
he was fronting a band called dubrow

931
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:01,200
basically just his last name

932
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:03,599
and i saw him at the troubadour very

933
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:04,960
much like you saw warren

934
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:07,200
and i just fell in love with his his

935
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:10,160
charisma his showmanship his passion

936
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:12,240
and not the prettiest boy you know on

937
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:13,359
the strip

938
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:16,800
but boy he had some heart and i knew

939
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:19,359
at that point this is uh you know

940
00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:21,119
probably a year or two before

941
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:23,200
they put quiet riot back together and

942
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:24,880
got their deal and mental health made

943
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:25,839
history

944
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:27,599
i really believe that kevin dubrow was

945
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:29,280
going to uh was going to be one of those

946
00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:30,880
guys that was going to be big time

947
00:42:35,589 --> 00:42:33,440
another band uh black and blue yeah

948
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:35,599
which is still around to this day

949
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:37,359
and there's so many bands we talked

950
00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:38,880
about lily and axe earlier

951
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:42,000
you could put keel in that

952
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:44,720
category of i've never quite achieved

953
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:46,079
what we thought they were going to

954
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:46,560
achieve

955
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,160
right i mean we had some dreams come

956
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:50,319
true and i've had a great run by the way

957
00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:52,079
i got to correct the bio man it's been

958
00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:54,560
40 years now jimmy 40 years

959
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:57,280
since the formation of steeler and 40

960
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:58,000
years since i

961
00:43:02,349 --> 00:43:00,000
moved to los angeles in hollywood in

962
00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:02,359
october of

963
00:43:07,109 --> 00:43:05,440
1981 that's when i went to la so it's

964
00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:07,119
been 40 years since my first

965
00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:08,720
recording since i first time i heard

966
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:10,160
myself on the radio

967
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:11,760
got to correct the bio and i'm proud of

968
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:14,079
that status as an elder statesman

969
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:16,319
uh as many of us are now as you

970
00:43:19,270 --> 00:43:17,760
mentioned back in the day it was

971
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:19,280
extremely competitive

972
00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:21,280
we were not buddies we were not friends

973
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:22,560
and some of the bands that did a lot of

974
00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:23,760
drugs might have been a little bit

975
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:25,200
friendlier with each other but

976
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:27,920
amanda as far as i recall it was dog eat

977
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:28,800
dog

978
00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:31,920
nowadays it's the survivors guys like

979
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:33,680
jack russell and myself and so many

980
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:35,680
others that have made it

981
00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:38,560
to this age we cherish those memories

982
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:40,079
and when we do a show together now

983
00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:42,079
whether it's monsters or rock crews or

984
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:44,000
any of these big events or we play on a

985
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:45,520
build together it really is like a

986
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:47,839
family reunion because we all remember

987
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:50,400
those doggy doggy dog days back on the

988
00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:50,880
strip

989
00:43:54,309 --> 00:43:52,960
yeah and it's funny we're going down

990
00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:54,319
this list of bands and

991
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:57,280
and forgot to mention dawkin right how

992
00:44:02,630 --> 00:43:58,960
incredible

993
00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:02,640
uh they were and and and those first few

994
00:44:05,589 --> 00:44:03,680
albums

995
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:05,599
uh certainly changed things and then so

996
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:07,200
then um

997
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:10,480
i wrote down and i was like how did how

998
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:11,359
did ron and i

999
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:15,680
skip armored saint

1000
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:20,400
odin writes odin so many there's so many

1001
00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:22,560
so many great bands and so many really

1002
00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:23,680
good bands and

1003
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:26,319
you know it it's really a combination of

1004
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:28,240
factors how one band could

1005
00:44:31,589 --> 00:44:29,920
could break out big time and go

1006
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:31,599
multi-platinum and other bands like the

1007
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:33,280
ones you just mentioned armored saying

1008
00:44:36,069 --> 00:44:34,079
odin

1009
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:36,079
maybe never achieved that level now of

1010
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:38,160
course armored saints still going strong

1011
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:40,240
after all these years and i remember

1012
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:41,760
when they got their record deal i was

1013
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:42,800
pissed

1014
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:45,760
and i was like no come on man we would

1015
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:46,560
hear the news

1016
00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:48,160
around hollywood oh do you hear someone

1017
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:49,599
so got signed right and

1018
00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:51,119
you were not rooting for them you were

1019
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:53,119
not happy for them you go that's my deal

1020
00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:55,440
that's right everybody wanted the record

1021
00:44:59,589 --> 00:44:57,280
deal we wanted we wanted more people

1022
00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:59,599
more ticket sales more girls more

1023
00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:01,680
parties we wanted more than the other

1024
00:45:05,589 --> 00:45:03,760
guys had so it was very competitive uh

1025
00:45:06,230 --> 00:45:05,599
to say the least yeah there were so many

1026
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:06,240
bands

1027
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:09,040
uh that were i mean the competition was

1028
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:09,520
stiff

1029
00:45:16,630 --> 00:45:14,079
i was i was i was like shark island

1030
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:16,640
shot you you know and they were they

1031
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:18,800
were they were so good

1032
00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:22,079
and probably dessert but but never got

1033
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:22,480
it

1034
00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:25,760
right they they and and and you know the

1035
00:45:31,030 --> 00:45:28,480
odin's in the shark islands of the world

1036
00:45:32,309 --> 00:45:31,040
there was a lot of that at the same time

1037
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:32,319
on the strip

1038
00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:35,440
oh you know perkins palace and and

1039
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:37,359
and uh you know just bringing up the

1040
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:38,800
country club

1041
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:41,760
and okay so i was i mentioned country

1042
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:43,119
club earlier

1043
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:45,760
and this is i want your take on it

1044
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:47,040
because

1045
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:49,280
uh for me uh you know with the

1046
00:45:53,829 --> 00:45:51,040
troubadour and gazaris

1047
00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:53,839
and and of course the roxy and and and

1048
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:54,800
the whiskey and

1049
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:56,319
if you went down the street there was

1050
00:46:00,550 --> 00:45:58,400
like uh club lingerie and things like

1051
00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:00,560
that but

1052
00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:03,040
the country club was like the big deal

1053
00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:03,680
to me

1054
00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:06,160
was it was it the same way for you yes

1055
00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:08,079
the country club and perkins palace both

1056
00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:09,520
which you mentioned

1057
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:12,079
would would be the best simulation for a

1058
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:14,640
band like that to be on an arena stage

1059
00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:16,000
and you've got to realize that

1060
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:17,599
all the bands that we're talking about

1061
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:19,200
every one of them grew up

1062
00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:21,839
in the arena era watching events like

1063
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:24,079
kiss alice cooper ted nugent we would go

1064
00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:25,280
to the arenas

1065
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:28,079
and we would try and emulate what those

1066
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:29,280
guys were doing

1067
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:30,880
on the club stages throughout hollywood

1068
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:32,880
so everywhere you went as you mentioned

1069
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:35,040
you saw an arena quality show

1070
00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:37,200
and i think it gave a lot of those bands

1071
00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:38,160
a real edge

1072
00:46:41,990 --> 00:46:40,000
when they did get signed when they did

1073
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:42,000
get their first tour they walk out on

1074
00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:43,200
stage in front of 10

1075
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:45,839
000 15 000 people and they're not scared

1076
00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:47,040
or intimidated they've

1077
00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:49,359
still got a show that's larger than life

1078
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:52,560
right so that arena rock generation

1079
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:54,240
you can see that every band that you

1080
00:46:58,630 --> 00:46:56,000
mentioned would go on stage

1081
00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:58,640
at the whiskey or the troubadour and we

1082
00:47:02,550 --> 00:46:59,839
would pretend

1083
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:02,560
like we were in a sold out arena like

1084
00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:04,640
steven tyler one of our biggest mentors

1085
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:05,920
of that generation said

1086
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:07,920
fake it till you make it close your eyes

1087
00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:09,440
and pretend like you're singing to 10

1088
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,160
000 people

1089
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:12,400
every time you get up there and then

1090
00:47:14,950 --> 00:47:13,359
it'll

1091
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:14,960
follow that dream and and that dream

1092
00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:16,720
will follow you and

1093
00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:19,040
you brought up uh i want to circle back

1094
00:47:25,109 --> 00:47:21,440
uh to black and blue for a second

1095
00:47:25,990 --> 00:47:25,119
um i i i went to see black and blue as

1096
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:26,000
much as i could

1097
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:27,680
you know and you know tommy thayer and

1098
00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:29,040
jamie st james but

1099
00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:32,480
um and i said wait a minute

1100
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:34,800
who that the the rhythm guitar player

1101
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:36,480
and he went

1102
00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:39,440
jeff whoop rice warner will porter what

1103
00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:40,400
a great guy

1104
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:43,839
and whoop um uh

1105
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:47,440
he had i'm gonna say everybody loved uh

1106
00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:48,480
whoop

1107
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:51,760
and but it was the way that guy

1108
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:54,800
owned the stage he owned it man he owned

1109
00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:57,520
every show didn't he he did and once

1110
00:48:01,910 --> 00:47:59,119
again not the prettiest boy

1111
00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:01,920
on the strip you know he was but he had

1112
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:03,680
charisma he had personality he had

1113
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:05,680
attitude he did own the stage i thought

1114
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:06,880
the whole band did

1115
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:09,599
if any band out of that era if i would

1116
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:10,240
have said

1117
00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:13,040
like you said with warren those guys are

1118
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:14,000
going to be huge

1119
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:16,480
it would have been black and blue of

1120
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:18,400
course there are reasons why and

1121
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:19,920
everybody goes why didn't it happen for

1122
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:21,440
you and how come you never

1123
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:24,160
achieved a platinum success or longevity

1124
00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:26,079
that motley crew or rat had

1125
00:48:30,069 --> 00:48:28,000
and it's a combination of factors man

1126
00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:30,079
it's not any one thing

1127
00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:32,079
but uh black and blue certainly had it

1128
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:34,319
all with the songs to show

1129
00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:36,480
the big money deal from geffen and the

1130
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:38,000
production from dieter dirks

1131
00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:39,920
who also produced scorpions that's those

1132
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:41,520
are some great sounding records

1133
00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:44,640
yeah great sounding records and uh i

1134
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:45,680
just remember

1135
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:53,670
and i i was so fixated on him during a

1136
00:48:56,950 --> 00:48:55,200
show so anybody

1137
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:56,960
uh out there listening right now look

1138
00:49:02,069 --> 00:48:58,800
these are these are old memories

1139
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:02,079
uh with ron and i and i go back to these

1140
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:04,559
little segments of my brain

1141
00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:06,720
and you know talking about black and

1142
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:07,760
blue and it i

1143
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:10,880
it it it focused down for i you know and

1144
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:13,040
tommy was a great friend i like tommy a

1145
00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:13,839
lot

1146
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:15,599
bye too what a great guy and a great

1147
00:49:18,309 --> 00:49:17,920
player obviously a 20-year tenure with

1148
00:49:20,309 --> 00:49:18,319
kiss

1149
00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:20,319
now and you know i mean you try and

1150
00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:21,839
describe that and i get it in every

1151
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:22,800
interview

1152
00:49:25,829 --> 00:49:24,480
what was it like back in the day

1153
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:25,839
everybody wants to know i think they

1154
00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:27,440
should just listen to jimmy church's

1155
00:49:29,829 --> 00:49:28,000
opening

1156
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:29,839
on tonight's fade to black and you'll

1157
00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:31,599
get a great description of that also a

1158
00:49:34,069 --> 00:49:33,359
great book that i just participated in

1159
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:34,079
was a

1160
00:49:37,109 --> 00:49:35,839
new york times bestseller called nothing

1161
00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:37,119
but a good time

1162
00:49:41,349 --> 00:49:39,359
uh big best-selling book with interviews

1163
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:41,359
from all the guys who lived

1164
00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:44,640
through that uh 80s heyday on the strip

1165
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:46,319
highly recommended book and i was glad

1166
00:49:49,109 --> 00:49:48,000
to participate in that and lend some of

1167
00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:49,119
my thoughts

1168
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:52,400
to that memory as well now um

1169
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:55,760
share with me your thoughts of

1170
00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:59,359
uh 10 11 12 o'clock at night or closing

1171
00:50:04,309 --> 00:50:01,040
at the rainbow

1172
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:04,319
and uh and walking out into

1173
00:50:08,549 --> 00:50:07,200
that parking lot there there's got to be

1174
00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:08,559
something that sticks out for you

1175
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:09,200
because

1176
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:13,200
it was 365 days a year a total mayhem

1177
00:50:19,109 --> 00:50:16,000
out there but does something stick out

1178
00:50:21,670 --> 00:50:19,119
yeah there were 360 500

1179
00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:21,680
women out there in the parking lot and

1180
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:24,079
you could just it was a smorgasbord and

1181
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:24,800
we were all

1182
00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:28,640
very hungry at the time so i mean it was

1183
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:32,079
it a lot of it was that was posing time

1184
00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:33,359
you know that was that was time to to

1185
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:35,440
play rockstar be a poser i don't think

1186
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:36,960
any of us did that when we walked on

1187
00:50:40,549 --> 00:50:38,880
stage so many great musicians and great

1188
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:40,559
bands and great shows

1189
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:43,040
but after closing time at the rainbow

1190
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:44,720
that was the real rock star time when

1191
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:45,440
you got to

1192
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:48,000
it was it was literally the ultimate

1193
00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:48,640
meet

1194
00:50:55,030 --> 00:50:51,680
greet and eat of all time

1195
00:50:58,950 --> 00:50:55,040
you know and i i just think about

1196
00:51:02,950 --> 00:50:58,960
how um how magical it was

1197
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:02,960
i don't know if we collectively

1198
00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:06,240
really appreciated how magical uh those

1199
00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:07,599
nights were

1200
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:10,000
and and what was really going down

1201
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:12,000
because for us it was survival it was

1202
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:13,839
bands it was music

1203
00:51:19,829 --> 00:51:17,280
um but what a moment in time

1204
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:19,839
that ultimately it would be that the

1205
00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:21,359
rest of the world

1206
00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:24,720
was was focused on this but it was just

1207
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:26,480
another night of the year

1208
00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:29,680
and it was it was absolute magic it was

1209
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:32,640
a magical time and a cultural revolution

1210
00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:34,800
as you said that will never be repeated

1211
00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:36,160
to be right there in the eye of the

1212
00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:36,960
storm

1213
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:40,000
like you and i were it was a great uh

1214
00:51:42,790 --> 00:51:40,960
experience

1215
00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:42,800
i'm really glad that i made that move in

1216
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:44,800
1981 something told me man i got to get

1217
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:46,319
got to get to la i had

1218
00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:48,319
a band called steeler in nashville that

1219
00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:50,400
was making a lot of noise we were the

1220
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:52,559
motley crew of nashville and we had

1221
00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:55,200
we had something special and i said uh

1222
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:56,480
we're not gonna we're not gonna get

1223
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:56,960
where

1224
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:58,960
we need to go here in nashville it was

1225
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:00,480
still country music city

1226
00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:03,119
now nashville is is hollywood i mean

1227
00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:04,800
everybody lives in nashville now i moved

1228
00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:07,040
there in 1979 and there was

1229
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:10,640
no rock and roll at all we were an apple

1230
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,040
tree in a cornfield so we stuck out

1231
00:52:17,109 --> 00:52:15,119
we got attention we got noticed and we

1232
00:52:19,109 --> 00:52:17,119
got ourselves to la

1233
00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:19,119
and had to start all over and claw our

1234
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:21,040
way up through that scene

1235
00:52:24,790 --> 00:52:22,960
and i'm really proud of those

1236
00:52:28,589 --> 00:52:24,800
experiences in those times

1237
00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:28,599
but people people i think they kind of

1238
00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:31,920
romanticize it a little more than i do

1239
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:32,800
because for me

1240
00:52:36,069 --> 00:52:35,680
it was really really difficult i was uh

1241
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:36,079
young

1242
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:38,240
immature i was starving i was trying to

1243
00:52:42,549 --> 00:52:39,920
learn how to write songs

1244
00:52:44,230 --> 00:52:42,559
uh we were living off of maybe a quarter

1245
00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:44,240
of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich

1246
00:52:47,270 --> 00:52:45,359
each day

1247
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:47,280
our lives were in danger every time we

1248
00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:48,640
walked down the street

1249
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:50,800
uh in los angeles it was a dangerous

1250
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:51,839
time

1251
00:52:57,589 --> 00:52:55,760
and we were i i i treasure those

1252
00:52:58,309 --> 00:52:57,599
experiences because they made me who i

1253
00:53:00,950 --> 00:52:58,319
am but

1254
00:53:02,470 --> 00:53:00,960
i wouldn't go back for uh all the money

1255
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:02,480
or platinum in the world man i'm really

1256
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:04,240
happy where i'm at now and i'm glad to

1257
00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:06,000
have survived that storm

1258
00:53:09,190 --> 00:53:07,680
and come out better for it on the other

1259
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:09,200
side now uh

1260
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:12,160
as we head into the break um uh for

1261
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:14,400
those i i know you've uh

1262
00:53:17,589 --> 00:53:17,040
uh spoken about this uh millions of

1263
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:17,599
times

1264
00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:20,720
but uh in the beginning

1265
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:23,680
uh you get here and you've got steeler

1266
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:24,400
um

1267
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:28,960
and it seemed to me uh pretty quickly

1268
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:32,800
um you you're introduced to inkva

1269
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:33,760
malmsteen

1270
00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:36,480
and you get the record deal how did that

1271
00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:37,200
happen

1272
00:53:41,349 --> 00:53:39,839
how did how were you how did ingva come

1273
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:41,359
into the picture

1274
00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:43,119
we had clawed our way up through that

1275
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:45,920
scene over the course of two years 81

1276
00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:49,680
82 when we were beginning in the

1277
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:52,240
outlying areas pasadena orange county

1278
00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:54,400
up in the san fernando valley because we

1279
00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:56,079
couldn't break into hollywood finally

1280
00:53:59,349 --> 00:53:57,839
we did break into hollywood and did big

1281
00:54:00,069 --> 00:53:59,359
numbers man we packed the house at the

1282
00:54:01,829 --> 00:54:00,079
whiskey

1283
00:54:04,390 --> 00:54:01,839
and the troubadour and we got a lot of

1284
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:04,400
airplay joe benson from klos started

1285
00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:04,960
playing us

1286
00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:07,280
on the local music show kmet started

1287
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:08,240
playing us

1288
00:54:12,470 --> 00:54:10,000
and we got a lot of attention and

1289
00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:12,480
notoriety in the local media

1290
00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:14,640
uh music connection magazine some some

1291
00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:16,240
band magazine you know those those

1292
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:18,400
publications were big back then

1293
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:21,040
so we were a top draw before anybody

1294
00:54:24,309 --> 00:54:22,480
ever heard of ingva

1295
00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:24,319
i just felt like in order to get it to

1296
00:54:28,950 --> 00:54:26,000
the next level i needed to make

1297
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:28,960
some difficult changes and whether those

1298
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:30,640
were the right decisions or not nobody

1299
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:32,000
will ever know

1300
00:54:36,069 --> 00:54:34,480
i am still really dear friends with the

1301
00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:36,079
original members in steeler i'll be

1302
00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:37,760
seeing them in nashville next week

1303
00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:39,920
at rock and pod an expo that i'm doing

1304
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:41,119
in nashville

1305
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:44,160
uh august 6th and 7th and

1306
00:54:47,589 --> 00:54:46,960
i've often regretted that move now of

1307
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:47,599
course

1308
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:50,000
discovering and being a part of that i

1309
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:51,440
found ingre

1310
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:53,839
in uh a mountain of cassette tapes in

1311
00:54:58,069 --> 00:54:54,880
mike varney's

1312
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:58,079
apartment we we were listening to every

1313
00:55:02,150 --> 00:54:59,920
possible guitar player

1314
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:02,160
uh that sent him a demo and we heard

1315
00:55:06,309 --> 00:55:04,559
english demo and obviously it was uh

1316
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:06,319
very special and he was doing something

1317
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:08,960
that nobody else was doing or could do

1318
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:10,480
and i thought he was one of the best

1319
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:12,319
guitar players on the planet even at the

1320
00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:14,000
age of 18.

1321
00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:15,760
and we pulled the trigger right then and

1322
00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:17,440
there called him up and

1323
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:19,760
brought him to america to record the

1324
00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:21,599
steeler album and be a part of that band

1325
00:55:26,950 --> 00:55:23,200
for four months which will live

1326
00:55:30,309 --> 00:55:26,960
forever in infamy the uh the album

1327
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:30,319
uh obviously still stands on its own um

1328
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:34,240
and and ingva happened but then after

1329
00:55:38,789 --> 00:55:35,359
steeler

1330
00:55:41,910 --> 00:55:38,799
um and you form keel

1331
00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:41,920
you you you find mark ferrari

1332
00:55:45,670 --> 00:55:44,880
and and and how did that happen i mean

1333
00:55:47,589 --> 00:55:45,680
how did you go

1334
00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:47,599
from one great guitarist to the other

1335
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:49,839
that that's a pretty lucky thing

1336
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:52,480
keel had a an amazing or still has an

1337
00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:54,640
amazing twin guitar team mark ferrari

1338
00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:56,160
and brian j who wrote all those

1339
00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:58,160
blistering solos back and forth in the

1340
00:56:01,510 --> 00:55:59,680
harmonies and all that

1341
00:56:03,349 --> 00:56:01,520
uh and i've always been really lucky man

1342
00:56:04,870 --> 00:56:03,359
you know i work hard and

1343
00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:04,880
there might be a little talent in there

1344
00:56:10,309 --> 00:56:07,040
somewhere but most of it is just plain

1345
00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:10,319
dime dumb blind luck uh i put keel

1346
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:11,599
together

1347
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:14,400
uh as steeler was folding and within

1348
00:56:16,870 --> 00:56:15,599
three months we were in the studio

1349
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,880
making our first album

1350
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:18,559
and then within four months we were

1351
00:56:21,190 --> 00:56:20,480
signed to our major label deal with gene

1352
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:21,200
simmons

1353
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:22,960
producing our debut album the right to

1354
00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:24,480
rock so it all happened

1355
00:56:28,870 --> 00:56:27,599
very quickly uh it was a juggernaut and

1356
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:28,880
obviously it was the right move to

1357
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:30,960
disband steeler and put keel together we

1358
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:31,839
ended up with

1359
00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:33,760
three albums that charted in billboard's

1360
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:35,040
hot 100

1361
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:37,839
some uh timeless songs and singles like

1362
00:56:41,109 --> 00:56:38,960
the right to rock

1363
00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:41,119
because the night tears of fire songs

1364
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:43,280
that are still in my show to this day

1365
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:44,880
so we were very fortunate we're in the

1366
00:56:49,270 --> 00:56:46,640
right place at the right time

1367
00:56:50,789 --> 00:56:49,280
and we worked really hard we we were uh

1368
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:50,799
noon to midnight rehearsal i mean that

1369
00:56:53,589 --> 00:56:51,520
was the schedule

1370
00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:53,599
noon to midnight and and with brian and

1371
00:56:59,349 --> 00:56:56,000
mark did you just have open auditions

1372
00:57:01,670 --> 00:56:59,359
or were they referred how how did that

1373
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:01,680
how did that connection happen man i i

1374
00:57:04,309 --> 00:57:03,440
was looking for a guitar player and i

1375
00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:04,319
came home

1376
00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:06,640
one day and there were 27 messages from

1377
00:57:10,789 --> 00:57:08,880
a guy named mark ferrari on my phone

1378
00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:10,799
and i said i want this guy you know this

1379
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:12,640
is obviously somebody with that passion

1380
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:14,160
that determination

1381
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:16,480
we met and you know i don't recall

1382
00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:18,000
auditioning mark

1383
00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:20,319
i think that it was instantaneous this

1384
00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:21,920
guy's a rock star and he picked up the

1385
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:23,200
guitar and he played a little bit i'm

1386
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:24,400
sure but it was like okay

1387
00:57:29,349 --> 00:57:27,440
this is it was it was uh very quick in

1388
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:29,359
fact mark ferrari was there

1389
00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:31,200
at the last dealer show when kurt james

1390
00:57:35,270 --> 00:57:33,200
was playing guitar for steeler

1391
00:57:36,789 --> 00:57:35,280
mark ferrari was at that gig standing

1392
00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:36,799
side stage because we all knew

1393
00:57:39,829 --> 00:57:38,960
this is steelers last show mark had

1394
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:39,839
already be

1395
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:43,440
become my next guitar hero and uh the

1396
00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:45,119
rest is history i'm really really proud

1397
00:57:47,750 --> 00:57:45,760
of all the

1398
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:47,760
the great guitarists that i've been

1399
00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:48,960
blessed with

1400
00:57:53,349 --> 00:57:51,760
uh from uh amber momstein mark ferrari

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kurt james jay

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00:57:57,270 --> 00:57:55,359
yeah so many great players through my

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00:57:59,109 --> 00:57:57,280
country career and now for the last

1404
00:58:01,270 --> 00:57:59,119
seven years dave cothern

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00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:01,280
from the ron keel band it finally he

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00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:02,880
really feels like i've got my

1407
00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:06,160
joe perry so to speak we've got that

1408
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:08,559
synergy on stage together we've been all

1409
00:58:12,069 --> 00:58:10,319
over the world from australia to

1410
00:58:13,829 --> 00:58:12,079
all across the us together the last

1411
00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:13,839
couple of years and uh

1412
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:15,359
we've been together seven years now and

1413
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:16,880
he's the lead guitar player in the ron

1414
00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:17,920
kill band

1415
00:58:21,589 --> 00:58:20,400
he's got uh everything that all those

1416
00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:21,599
guys had

1417
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:24,160
and i like i said i've been very lucky

1418
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:25,760
and very blessed to have good people

1419
00:58:29,109 --> 00:58:27,520
gravitate into my life and

1420
00:58:31,589 --> 00:58:29,119
you know i just keep working hard at it

1421
00:58:35,349 --> 00:58:31,599
but that luck yeah that's that's uh

1422
00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:35,359
something intangible and unexplained

1423
00:58:40,870 --> 00:58:38,319
as one of your phenomenon that surrounds

1424
00:58:42,710 --> 00:58:40,880
rod keel it's a supernatural paranormal

1425
00:58:44,789 --> 00:58:42,720
phenomenon that surrounds me

1426
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:44,799
you know you just brought up kurt james

1427
00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:45,839
and uh

1428
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:48,799
just like you and i connecting because

1429
00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:49,280
of

1430
00:58:56,549 --> 00:58:53,680
music and i

1431
00:58:57,430 --> 00:58:56,559
think that's amazing i get this uh uh

1432
00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:57,440
email

1433
00:59:00,470 --> 00:58:59,680
uh this is uh probably uh three or four

1434
00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:00,480
years ago

1435
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:04,319
get this email from this guy hey jimmy

1436
00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:05,760
i just want to let you know man i really

1437
00:59:08,549 --> 00:59:08,000
enjoy the show and i'm really into ufos

1438
00:59:12,710 --> 00:59:08,559
and

1439
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:12,720
just reaching out to you man

1440
00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:16,640
kurt james i was like kurt james what

1441
00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:18,480
just out of the blue and i wrote them

1442
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:21,280
back and i was like is this really you

1443
00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:24,880
um but but it's just a small world ron

1444
00:59:29,589 --> 00:59:28,160
it is a really small world yes thank

1445
00:59:31,270 --> 00:59:29,599
goodness the internet has made it

1446
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:31,280
smaller so we can connect with each

1447
00:59:34,390 --> 00:59:33,040
other and all of our fans and listeners

1448
00:59:35,750 --> 00:59:34,400
and everybody out there who shares the

1449
00:59:37,349 --> 00:59:35,760
same passions we do

1450
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:37,359
now all right let's uh let's take a

1451
00:59:40,950 --> 00:59:39,119
break right here ron and

1452
00:59:43,030 --> 00:59:40,960
let's come back and take some paranormal

1453
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:43,040
phone calls well they could be music

1454
00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:46,079
it might be both country and western

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this is fade to black i'm your tv church

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tonight ron keel

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is helping me man the phones because it

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is fader night

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[Music]

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747-228-2051 ron and i will be right

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[Music]

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not by just going to our membership

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1565
01:04:45,670 --> 01:04:44,240
hello this is serena wright taylor from

1566
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and you're listening to fade to black

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with jimmy church

1569
01:04:52,870 --> 01:04:50,960
who holds the lucky pony record for the

1570
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this is micah hanks of the ghrelian

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report and you're listening to jimmy

1574
01:05:03,270 --> 01:05:01,520
church on fade to black

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across the globe on the game changer

1576
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radio network and the one and only kgra

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[Music]

1578
01:05:30,870 --> 01:05:29,670
welcome back fade to black i am your

1579
01:05:33,349 --> 01:05:30,880
host jimmy church

1580
01:05:34,870 --> 01:05:33,359
it is thursday night it is fader night

1581
01:05:38,069 --> 01:05:34,880
open lines

1582
01:05:40,549 --> 01:05:38,079
7 four seven two two eight two zero five

1583
01:05:42,630 --> 01:05:40,559
one seven four seven two two eight two

1584
01:05:45,990 --> 01:05:42,640
zero five one ron keel

1585
01:05:48,950 --> 01:05:46,000
is hanging out tonight and uh

1586
01:05:50,150 --> 01:05:48,960
and now ron i'm gonna give you the

1587
01:05:53,430 --> 01:05:50,160
pleasure

1588
01:05:56,150 --> 01:05:53,440
of saying you're up next time fade to

1589
01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:56,160
black who's calling

1590
01:05:58,190 --> 01:05:57,839
you're up next on fade to black who's

1591
01:06:01,190 --> 01:05:58,200
calling

1592
01:06:05,190 --> 01:06:01,200
[Laughter]

1593
01:06:08,630 --> 01:06:05,200
i love it and uh we're gonna go

1594
01:06:15,430 --> 01:06:11,750
who's up

1595
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:20,150
you're live unfaded

1596
01:06:25,430 --> 01:06:22,230
turn me down in the background turn me

1597
01:06:32,710 --> 01:06:28,630
turn me down yes you're you're up first

1598
01:06:34,870 --> 01:06:32,720
ron just said who's up

1599
01:06:36,710 --> 01:06:34,880
this is mark from dallas boys what are

1600
01:06:38,870 --> 01:06:36,720
you all saying

1601
01:06:40,230 --> 01:06:38,880
mark from doubt ron keel we got the

1602
01:06:43,430 --> 01:06:40,240
treat

1603
01:06:45,510 --> 01:06:43,440
good evening mark from dallas texas

1604
01:06:47,510 --> 01:06:45,520
other mothers are on tonight man how are

1605
01:06:51,109 --> 01:06:47,520
y'all doing uh we're doing great

1606
01:06:53,990 --> 01:06:51,119
and uh i gotta you know ron

1607
01:06:55,510 --> 01:06:54,000
mark um and it's uh it's a miracle that

1608
01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:55,520
he's up first i don't know how he pulls

1609
01:06:58,150 --> 01:06:56,160
it off

1610
01:06:59,990 --> 01:06:58,160
but uh mark's a guitar player out of

1611
01:07:02,870 --> 01:07:00,000
dallas um he's also in

1612
01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:02,880
law enforcement and uh but he's got

1613
01:07:07,990 --> 01:07:04,880
severe musical knowledge

1614
01:07:11,190 --> 01:07:08,000
and uh very strange mark that you're up

1615
01:07:14,870 --> 01:07:12,950
jesus loves me brother i've told you

1616
01:07:16,630 --> 01:07:14,880
it's god's will that i came on first you

1617
01:07:19,190 --> 01:07:16,640
know how it worked yeah right on mark

1618
01:07:23,190 --> 01:07:21,829
ron man it's great i love when you're on

1619
01:07:25,990 --> 01:07:23,200
i hope you're doing well

1620
01:07:27,109 --> 01:07:26,000
and just so you know in your honor i've

1621
01:07:29,589 --> 01:07:27,119
been listening to keel

1622
01:07:30,950 --> 01:07:29,599
all day today to get uh to get the vibe

1623
01:07:33,029 --> 01:07:30,960
right

1624
01:07:35,270 --> 01:07:33,039
and uh thank you for that awesome thank

1625
01:07:37,589 --> 01:07:35,280
you for a fader knives

1626
01:07:38,710 --> 01:07:37,599
treat yourself to some incredible vocal

1627
01:07:40,630 --> 01:07:38,720
range check out

1628
01:07:42,150 --> 01:07:40,640
thunder and lightning and lay down the

1629
01:07:45,109 --> 01:07:42,160
law please

1630
01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:45,119
listen to the show tonight and if you're

1631
01:07:47,349 --> 01:07:45,440
not

1632
01:07:48,630 --> 01:07:47,359
moving baby something you're you're uh

1633
01:07:50,069 --> 01:07:48,640
something's wrong with you because that

1634
01:07:52,150 --> 01:07:50,079
is some old school rock with some

1635
01:07:53,190 --> 01:07:52,160
incredible vocals man so thanks for all

1636
01:07:56,710 --> 01:07:53,200
these years

1637
01:07:59,670 --> 01:07:56,720
of excellent music man i thank you i

1638
01:08:02,549 --> 01:07:59,680
appreciate you enjoying uh my work and

1639
01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:02,559
uh you cited some some pretty incredible

1640
01:08:05,829 --> 01:08:04,240
vocal work on though that late on the

1641
01:08:07,349 --> 01:08:05,839
law album that was the first record

1642
01:08:09,750 --> 01:08:07,359
where i realized

1643
01:08:11,430 --> 01:08:09,760
that uh maybe i could pull this off i

1644
01:08:12,630 --> 01:08:11,440
think maybe i can make records because

1645
01:08:14,549 --> 01:08:12,640
the first couple of

1646
01:08:16,309 --> 01:08:14,559
recording sessions didn't go so well but

1647
01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:16,319
that one that one stands the test of

1648
01:08:22,149 --> 01:08:18,000
time so i appreciate you listening to it

1649
01:08:25,510 --> 01:08:23,990
hey jimmy i cannot hear him oh you

1650
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:25,520
cannot hear ron

1651
01:08:31,910 --> 01:08:30,000
oh okay hold on okay ron say hello

1652
01:08:33,430 --> 01:08:31,920
hello jimmy i was just i was just

1653
01:08:35,430 --> 01:08:33,440
thanking you for

1654
01:08:37,510 --> 01:08:35,440
uh listening to my music and uh

1655
01:08:38,950 --> 01:08:37,520
compliment i was complimenting myself on

1656
01:08:40,789 --> 01:08:38,960
the vocals on that record

1657
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:40,799
that's some pretty crazy screams on that

1658
01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:43,199
that late on the law album from 1984

1659
01:08:46,630 --> 01:08:46,080
it was a time when i had to prove to

1660
01:08:48,149 --> 01:08:46,640
myself

1661
01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:48,159
and to the world that i could really cut

1662
01:08:51,590 --> 01:08:49,920
it in the studio and and make good

1663
01:08:54,149 --> 01:08:51,600
records and i think that was the first

1664
01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:54,159
inkling that i got of that it's it's

1665
01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:57,359
amazing that now what 37 years later

1666
01:09:01,110 --> 01:08:58,799
people like you are still enjoying it

1667
01:09:04,149 --> 01:09:01,120
and i appreciate that

1668
01:09:06,550 --> 01:09:04,159
you got them now mark no

1669
01:09:08,229 --> 01:09:06,560
i can just barely hear just barely

1670
01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:08,239
hearing about it okay that is

1671
01:09:15,910 --> 01:09:13,120
now that is strange

1672
01:09:17,590 --> 01:09:15,920
uh ron do another check i i've never had

1673
01:09:19,749 --> 01:09:17,600
this problem before

1674
01:09:20,950 --> 01:09:19,759
well you know i usually i'm i'm a very

1675
01:09:22,390 --> 01:09:20,960
soft-spoken guy

1676
01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:22,400
jimmy as you know i don't i don't

1677
01:09:26,070 --> 01:09:24,400
usually talk very loud so people have a

1678
01:09:27,990 --> 01:09:26,080
hard time hearing me maybe i should hit

1679
01:09:29,669 --> 01:09:28,000
one of those high screams and see if

1680
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:29,679
mark and dallas could hear me just mark

1681
01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:31,120
open your window

1682
01:09:35,510 --> 01:09:33,040
and i'm going to let on the screen here

1683
01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:35,520
in dallas

1684
01:09:38,789 --> 01:09:38,080
you got him now you got him now right i

1685
01:09:43,349 --> 01:09:38,799
could

1686
01:09:44,390 --> 01:09:43,359
barely hear him but i heard he heard him

1687
01:09:47,510 --> 01:09:44,400
say open the window

1688
01:09:50,789 --> 01:09:47,520
yeah okay all right all right

1689
01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:50,799
i i'll dial it in uh it's just uh

1690
01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:52,880
very strange normally everything is cool

1691
01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:54,880
but uh what do you have

1692
01:09:58,390 --> 01:09:56,800
man um what do you have for us tonight

1693
01:10:02,149 --> 01:09:58,400
mark

1694
01:10:04,229 --> 01:10:02,159
well you know man uh obviously

1695
01:10:06,390 --> 01:10:04,239
we all come from musical backgrounds and

1696
01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:06,400
music means a whole lot to us

1697
01:10:10,470 --> 01:10:08,880
um i know that when i was a kid coming

1698
01:10:13,830 --> 01:10:10,480
up i was listening to

1699
01:10:16,149 --> 01:10:13,840
the beatles my parents listened to

1700
01:10:17,430 --> 01:10:16,159
johnny cash merle haggard and buck owens

1701
01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:17,440
i thought they were uncles of mine they

1702
01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:20,159
listened to him all the time

1703
01:10:25,189 --> 01:10:23,280
but then i got a hold of the beatles and

1704
01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:25,199
so at this point i just been listening

1705
01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:26,960
to catchy

1706
01:10:29,990 --> 01:10:29,679
pop country pop rock i'm i'm seven eight

1707
01:10:32,790 --> 01:10:30,000
nine

1708
01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:32,800
years old and then this guy named jimi

1709
01:10:37,669 --> 01:10:34,320
hendrix came along right

1710
01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:37,679
right and um i found out that there are

1711
01:10:41,590 --> 01:10:38,560
two kinds

1712
01:10:43,669 --> 01:10:41,600
of artists and bands there's bands that

1713
01:10:45,430 --> 01:10:43,679
write songs

1714
01:10:47,350 --> 01:10:45,440
and then there's bands that come in and

1715
01:10:48,790 --> 01:10:47,360
sneak into your kick your bedroom door

1716
01:10:51,030 --> 01:10:48,800
down and put you in a headlock and they

1717
01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:51,040
say we're going to the river and you

1718
01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:53,280
you're coming with me and i'm in control

1719
01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:55,280
and that's what hendrix did

1720
01:10:59,510 --> 01:10:57,040
and there's still music like that man

1721
01:11:02,229 --> 01:10:59,520
that tran this music transforms

1722
01:11:03,189 --> 01:11:02,239
you right it's not just fun music it

1723
01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:03,199
actually makes you

1724
01:11:07,510 --> 01:11:05,920
feel things and ever since then i've

1725
01:11:09,669 --> 01:11:07,520
been i've been looking

1726
01:11:11,669 --> 01:11:09,679
for that type of music and i was just

1727
01:11:14,709 --> 01:11:11,679
wondering when is the first time

1728
01:11:16,950 --> 01:11:14,719
both of you guys had that feeling

1729
01:11:18,070 --> 01:11:16,960
what band did that for you what band

1730
01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:18,080
what music and

1731
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:19,679
and even still to this day like i

1732
01:11:24,310 --> 01:11:21,840
listened to certain tool songs or

1733
01:11:26,229 --> 01:11:24,320
something like that it's like holy crap

1734
01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:26,239
you know that was uh that was quite an

1735
01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:27,840
experience that was more than a song

1736
01:11:31,669 --> 01:11:29,760
that was an experience right

1737
01:11:33,430 --> 01:11:31,679
do you all have artists like that that

1738
01:11:35,030 --> 01:11:33,440
you listen to and that makes you feel

1739
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:35,040
that way

1740
01:11:38,790 --> 01:11:38,400
ron well hopefully bark you can hear me

1741
01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:38,800
now

1742
01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:40,960
and i had the same upbringing and

1743
01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:42,560
background as you did

1744
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:44,400
uh parents who played a lot of country

1745
01:11:49,270 --> 01:11:45,760
music on the stereo

1746
01:11:51,350 --> 01:11:49,280
you know hank senior johnny cash uh

1747
01:11:53,110 --> 01:11:51,360
and merle haggard and then my sister who

1748
01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:53,120
was 10 years older than me

1749
01:11:56,229 --> 01:11:54,400
turned me onto the beetles and the

1750
01:11:57,510 --> 01:11:56,239
stones so i grew up in a house that was

1751
01:11:59,430 --> 01:11:57,520
really divided

1752
01:12:00,790 --> 01:11:59,440
between country and rock and roll i

1753
01:12:03,750 --> 01:12:00,800
ended up playing

1754
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:03,760
jazz and classical music and you know

1755
01:12:06,070 --> 01:12:04,320
the one

1756
01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:06,080
there's a couple of bands you know and i

1757
01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:08,400
i can list my five favorites but

1758
01:12:13,270 --> 01:12:11,199
there's a couple of bands that really uh

1759
01:12:15,430 --> 01:12:13,280
have made a huge impact on my life

1760
01:12:16,950 --> 01:12:15,440
one of them is the eagles and the other

1761
01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:16,960
is judas priest

1762
01:12:21,430 --> 01:12:19,360
both bands i would buy everything

1763
01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:21,440
they've ever put out the day they put it

1764
01:12:24,709 --> 01:12:22,080
out and

1765
01:12:27,430 --> 01:12:24,719
i know those those bands are not similar

1766
01:12:29,350 --> 01:12:27,440
musically in any way but both of them

1767
01:12:30,550 --> 01:12:29,360
kind of really reflect my inner

1768
01:12:33,110 --> 01:12:30,560
personality they both

1769
01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:33,120
resonate heavily within my heart and in

1770
01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:33,920
my head

1771
01:12:37,350 --> 01:12:36,000
this judas priest box set that's coming

1772
01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:37,360
out in october i'm

1773
01:12:41,350 --> 01:12:39,760
it's 500 bucks man and i i can't wait to

1774
01:12:43,830 --> 01:12:41,360
get my hands on it

1775
01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:43,840
and the eagles as well that uh that band

1776
01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:44,960
really shaped

1777
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:46,960
who i am and there's not a not a time

1778
01:12:50,790 --> 01:12:48,719
when they come on the radio that i'll

1779
01:12:52,470 --> 01:12:50,800
change the channel or not turn it up

1780
01:12:55,510 --> 01:12:52,480
yeah i'm gonna

1781
01:12:58,550 --> 01:12:55,520
it it's really hard for me to uh

1782
01:13:00,149 --> 01:12:58,560
even sway off of that the eagles and

1783
01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:00,159
judas priest

1784
01:13:07,110 --> 01:13:03,520
and it kind of in the same vein

1785
01:13:09,189 --> 01:13:07,120
if i was going to go back and

1786
01:13:11,030 --> 01:13:09,199
search where i wasn't going to see the

1787
01:13:14,390 --> 01:13:11,040
eagles and judas priest

1788
01:13:17,510 --> 01:13:14,400
i would probably go jeff

1789
01:13:21,310 --> 01:13:17,520
beck and black sabbath

1790
01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:21,320
you know that that period for me ron

1791
01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:24,880
1975 76 77

1792
01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:28,239
uh huge influences on me

1793
01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:30,960
as was you know the eagles volume

1794
01:13:35,350 --> 01:13:32,719
greatest hits right

1795
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:35,360
and uh and all of that judas priest

1796
01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:37,760
stuff uh through the 70s

1797
01:13:41,910 --> 01:13:40,560
um yeah yeah yeah ron that's that's

1798
01:13:43,990 --> 01:13:41,920
really well put

1799
01:13:45,110 --> 01:13:44,000
well put hey mark thank you for the

1800
01:13:48,310 --> 01:13:45,120
phone call my friend

1801
01:13:49,910 --> 01:13:48,320
behave and be well all right brothers

1802
01:13:51,910 --> 01:13:49,920
we'll see y'all and uh thanks uh thanks

1803
01:13:53,590 --> 01:13:51,920
for taking my call thank you ron so much

1804
01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:53,600
thank you thank you mark i appreciate

1805
01:13:59,430 --> 01:13:56,000
you and uh

1806
01:14:03,189 --> 01:13:59,440
that's um we

1807
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:03,199
i want to say this again ron when when

1808
01:14:07,270 --> 01:14:05,520
if you hadn't have said the eagles and

1809
01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:07,280
judas priest

1810
01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:10,960
i probably would have gone there too

1811
01:14:14,229 --> 01:14:12,880
there was something yeah there was

1812
01:14:16,870 --> 01:14:14,239
something about uh

1813
01:14:17,990 --> 01:14:16,880
especially at that age you know i'm you

1814
01:14:21,189 --> 01:14:18,000
know 10 11

1815
01:14:23,750 --> 01:14:21,199
12 years old and and

1816
01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:23,760
uh the the eagles greatest hits and

1817
01:14:29,350 --> 01:14:25,600
listening to witchy woman

1818
01:14:32,790 --> 01:14:29,360
right and whatever that was 1975

1819
01:14:35,910 --> 01:14:32,800
76 and how eerie it was

1820
01:14:38,950 --> 01:14:35,920
and how moody you know it was

1821
01:14:42,229 --> 01:14:38,960
and then you go um

1822
01:14:44,390 --> 01:14:42,239
and ozzy was cool he was great and

1823
01:14:47,270 --> 01:14:44,400
and other singers out there were great

1824
01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:47,280
but the first time i heard rob halford

1825
01:14:52,950 --> 01:14:50,560
and and what that twin guitar attack and

1826
01:14:54,550 --> 01:14:52,960
and everything and i was a huge black

1827
01:14:58,070 --> 01:14:54,560
sabbath fan

1828
01:14:58,870 --> 01:14:58,080
but man and then you know like unleashed

1829
01:15:02,070 --> 01:14:58,880
in the east

1830
01:15:05,189 --> 01:15:02,080
right absolutely man

1831
01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:05,199
i uh i i think both of those

1832
01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:07,600
bands and all the the great body of work

1833
01:15:11,430 --> 01:15:09,600
that they did really made me musically

1834
01:15:14,149 --> 01:15:11,440
who i am now i love the beatles and

1835
01:15:14,470 --> 01:15:14,159
i'm a sponge i'll soak up everything i i

1836
01:15:17,750 --> 01:15:14,480
love

1837
01:15:20,149 --> 01:15:17,760
all styles of music and

1838
01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:20,159
i i wanted to answer his question

1839
01:15:24,229 --> 01:15:21,120
honestly about

1840
01:15:26,470 --> 01:15:24,239
whose music still excites me and who do

1841
01:15:29,350 --> 01:15:26,480
i listen to and when it's go time

1842
01:15:30,550 --> 01:15:29,360
and whose albums will i buy the the day

1843
01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:30,560
they're released and

1844
01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:32,560
those are two of them that have stood

1845
01:15:36,229 --> 01:15:33,920
the test of time there are a few more

1846
01:15:38,950 --> 01:15:36,239
scorpions ac dc

1847
01:15:39,350 --> 01:15:38,960
uh i'll certainly uh buy whatever they

1848
01:15:42,870 --> 01:15:39,360
do

1849
01:15:46,470 --> 01:15:42,880
and uh again i i

1850
01:15:48,310 --> 01:15:46,480
i think that we're all influenced by

1851
01:15:51,110 --> 01:15:48,320
everything that we hear as musicians and

1852
01:15:52,870 --> 01:15:51,120
creative people but as fans

1853
01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:52,880
we want the music that takes us back to

1854
01:15:56,709 --> 01:15:54,560
those special times and

1855
01:15:57,830 --> 01:15:56,719
those those memories of our our our

1856
01:16:00,550 --> 01:15:57,840
youth and

1857
01:16:02,470 --> 01:16:00,560
you want to relive that eagles and and

1858
01:16:04,630 --> 01:16:02,480
priests to me have stood that test of

1859
01:16:05,590 --> 01:16:04,640
time and their newer music is just as

1860
01:16:07,430 --> 01:16:05,600
good that

1861
01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:07,440
the long road out of eden album that the

1862
01:16:11,669 --> 01:16:09,280
eagles put out gosh it's probably been

1863
01:16:13,430 --> 01:16:11,679
what 13 14 years ago now yeah

1864
01:16:15,830 --> 01:16:13,440
great double album i still listen to

1865
01:16:16,709 --> 01:16:15,840
that record probably a couple times a

1866
01:16:18,470 --> 01:16:16,719
month

1867
01:16:20,550 --> 01:16:18,480
and so it's not just the greatest hits

1868
01:16:23,750 --> 01:16:20,560
from the 70s it's the the recent work

1869
01:16:25,990 --> 01:16:23,760
and by judas priest firepower uh just

1870
01:16:27,350 --> 01:16:26,000
just a great album that i really enjoy

1871
01:16:31,189 --> 01:16:27,360
listening to

1872
01:16:33,750 --> 01:16:31,199
uh there was uh for me um

1873
01:16:35,669 --> 01:16:33,760
uh throughout that whole period being

1874
01:16:39,030 --> 01:16:35,679
this heavy metal guy

1875
01:16:42,229 --> 01:16:39,040
there were two other bands that

1876
01:16:44,709 --> 01:16:42,239
in you know around 1980

1877
01:16:45,510 --> 01:16:44,719
uh that that really messed me up and

1878
01:16:50,630 --> 01:16:45,520
that was

1879
01:16:55,270 --> 01:16:53,110
they will mess you up yeah yeah you know

1880
01:16:58,870 --> 01:16:55,280
and you know here i am

1881
01:17:02,790 --> 01:16:58,880
uh you know in my bedroom uh you know

1882
01:17:06,070 --> 01:17:02,800
learning van halen songs right and and

1883
01:17:10,149 --> 01:17:06,080
blizzard of oz and and and whatever

1884
01:17:13,110 --> 01:17:10,159
but the b-52s and the cars

1885
01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:13,120
were songwriters right that's right and

1886
01:17:17,430 --> 01:17:15,280
absolutely so those songs are

1887
01:17:18,790 --> 01:17:17,440
they just they're hooks and they grab

1888
01:17:21,910 --> 01:17:18,800
india and they don't let go

1889
01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:21,920
yeah absolutely uh go ahead ron say who

1890
01:17:25,669 --> 01:17:23,520
who's up next you're live on fade to

1891
01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:25,679
black good evening you're on fade to

1892
01:17:30,870 --> 01:17:27,040
black who's up next

1893
01:17:32,229 --> 01:17:30,880
hey jim can you hear me we got you

1894
01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:32,239
how you doing my name is carlos i'm

1895
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:34,400
calling from florida hey carlos from

1896
01:17:38,790 --> 01:17:35,280
florida

1897
01:17:41,830 --> 01:17:38,800
say hi to ron keal ron how are you

1898
01:17:46,310 --> 01:17:43,270
what's on you what's on your mind

1899
01:17:50,790 --> 01:17:49,189
uh okay first of all big fan been a big

1900
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:50,800
fan of yours for years

1901
01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:52,960
um so it's a honor to finally speak with

1902
01:17:56,870 --> 01:17:54,480
you thank you

1903
01:17:59,110 --> 01:17:56,880
the thing i want to talk about we're not

1904
01:18:01,430 --> 01:17:59,120
talking about just uh

1905
01:18:03,669 --> 01:18:01,440
ask is uh what do you think i'm

1906
01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:03,679
originally from puerto rico

1907
01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:06,000
and i saw a lot of stuff when i lived

1908
01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:08,400
down there um

1909
01:18:13,669 --> 01:18:11,199
i haven't seen anything in years but

1910
01:18:17,990 --> 01:18:13,679
i've seen ufos i've seen usos

1911
01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:18,000
and um my question i guess you is

1912
01:18:21,910 --> 01:18:20,320
what do you think or what what is your

1913
01:18:25,590 --> 01:18:21,920
opinion about the

1914
01:18:28,870 --> 01:18:25,600
bermuda train ah

1915
01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:28,880
you're going old school carlos right on

1916
01:18:34,149 --> 01:18:32,320
yeah i know i've been a fan of all this

1917
01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:34,159
stuff since i was a kid when i got into

1918
01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:35,040
these uh

1919
01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:36,880
mysteries of the unknown books from time

1920
01:18:39,750 --> 01:18:38,239
life and that was like one of the first

1921
01:18:40,950 --> 01:18:39,760
things i read about was the bermuda

1922
01:18:42,950 --> 01:18:40,960
triangle and

1923
01:18:44,630 --> 01:18:42,960
when i lived in puerto rico and i used

1924
01:18:45,510 --> 01:18:44,640
to hang out in old san juan that's where

1925
01:18:48,950 --> 01:18:45,520
i actually saw

1926
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:48,960
two usos uh two different occasions

1927
01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:50,560
and i just remember like you know san

1928
01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:52,480
juan is like one of the points of the

1929
01:18:57,990 --> 01:18:54,480
bermuda triangle

1930
01:18:59,830 --> 01:18:58,000
and i know there's a lot of underwater

1931
01:19:02,390 --> 01:18:59,840
structures that supposedly

1932
01:19:02,950 --> 01:19:02,400
are underneath uh the atlantic ocean

1933
01:19:05,430 --> 01:19:02,960
area

1934
01:19:07,430 --> 01:19:05,440
yep and puerto rico being down there

1935
01:19:08,470 --> 01:19:07,440
anyways burning the triangle sorry uh

1936
01:19:10,630 --> 01:19:08,480
yeah old timer

1937
01:19:11,750 --> 01:19:10,640
i remember the book by charles burlitz

1938
01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:11,760
that came out the

1939
01:19:15,590 --> 01:19:13,840
bermuda triangle i remember seeing the

1940
01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:15,600
movie at the drive-in

1941
01:19:21,350 --> 01:19:19,199
and you know at this point decades later

1942
01:19:24,870 --> 01:19:21,360
it's tough to separate the myth

1943
01:19:27,189 --> 01:19:24,880
from the facts but i could tell you for

1944
01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:27,199
a long time if i was getting on a plane

1945
01:19:31,030 --> 01:19:29,840
i i want to fly anywhere else but there

1946
01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:31,040
and

1947
01:19:36,149 --> 01:19:34,320
there i believe that uh you know the sea

1948
01:19:38,470 --> 01:19:36,159
i'm i'm a desert guy

1949
01:19:39,750 --> 01:19:38,480
i'm you know i'm in arizona arizona born

1950
01:19:43,510 --> 01:19:39,760
and bred and

1951
01:19:46,950 --> 01:19:43,520
uh i i'm not a water guy anyway but

1952
01:19:50,229 --> 01:19:46,960
i'd like to think that uh there is

1953
01:19:50,709 --> 01:19:50,239
more to to that than we know uh pretty

1954
01:19:52,070 --> 01:19:50,719
much

1955
01:19:54,149 --> 01:19:52,080
i don't know jimmy you're the authority

1956
01:19:55,830 --> 01:19:54,159
on this type of subject it was a

1957
01:19:58,149 --> 01:19:55,840
fascinating subject for me and

1958
01:19:59,750 --> 01:19:58,159
at one time i absolutely believed that

1959
01:20:00,709 --> 01:19:59,760
it was hell on earth and i would not fly

1960
01:20:03,430 --> 01:20:00,719
across it

1961
01:20:04,709 --> 01:20:03,440
i uh i just like everybody else and it's

1962
01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:04,719
really funny that you just

1963
01:20:09,669 --> 01:20:07,840
i'm watching ron he didn't look around

1964
01:20:10,870 --> 01:20:09,679
or google he went straight charles

1965
01:20:14,070 --> 01:20:10,880
berlitz

1966
01:20:14,470 --> 01:20:14,080
and uh which tells me that that you were

1967
01:20:16,390 --> 01:20:14,480
very

1968
01:20:17,510 --> 01:20:16,400
interested in this and i remember the

1969
01:20:21,110 --> 01:20:17,520
book

1970
01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:21,120
and i couldn't ron i'm being very

1971
01:20:26,149 --> 01:20:22,400
serious

1972
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:26,159
uh egypt was there and and uh

1973
01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:29,440
chariots of the gods and but the bermuda

1974
01:20:34,390 --> 01:20:31,440
triangle grabbed me

1975
01:20:36,550 --> 01:20:34,400
right there was something going on and

1976
01:20:37,350 --> 01:20:36,560
it was the ships and it was the planes

1977
01:20:43,669 --> 01:20:37,360
and

1978
01:20:44,950 --> 01:20:43,679
out of uh uh fort lauderdale you know

1979
01:20:48,149 --> 01:20:44,960
that disappeared

1980
01:20:50,629 --> 01:20:48,159
and yeah and that being part of uh

1981
01:20:52,229 --> 01:20:50,639
close encounters of the third kind the

1982
01:20:55,669 --> 01:20:52,239
bermuda triangle

1983
01:20:58,870 --> 01:20:55,679
uh was something that uh helped me

1984
01:21:00,550 --> 01:20:58,880
uh further into uh my life that i'm

1985
01:21:02,390 --> 01:21:00,560
doing now today

1986
01:21:04,470 --> 01:21:02,400
and i still think that there is

1987
01:21:06,709 --> 01:21:04,480
something to it there was

1988
01:21:07,910 --> 01:21:06,719
ron i don't know if you you caught this

1989
01:21:11,030 --> 01:21:07,920
but

1990
01:21:14,229 --> 01:21:11,040
um in the wikileaks email dumps

1991
01:21:15,590 --> 01:21:14,239
uh that uh that came out with a john

1992
01:21:18,709 --> 01:21:15,600
podesta

1993
01:21:20,950 --> 01:21:18,719
um four years ago um with uh

1994
01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:20,960
you know tom delong being mentioned in

1995
01:21:23,990 --> 01:21:22,080
these emails

1996
01:21:25,750 --> 01:21:24,000
well there was another set of emails

1997
01:21:28,870 --> 01:21:25,760
with john podesta

1998
01:21:32,070 --> 01:21:28,880
uh with this guy bob fish and bob

1999
01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:32,080
was uh revealing all of this information

2000
01:21:35,990 --> 01:21:33,760
to john podesta in the emails but there

2001
01:21:36,790 --> 01:21:36,000
was something that stuck out there for

2002
01:21:40,310 --> 01:21:36,800
me

2003
01:21:43,990 --> 01:21:40,320
in these emails and he says

2004
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:44,000
north of bermuda that

2005
01:21:50,070 --> 01:21:47,280
the united states navy had

2006
01:21:51,270 --> 01:21:50,080
honed in on this electromagnetic

2007
01:21:55,030 --> 01:21:51,280
frequency

2008
01:21:58,070 --> 01:21:55,040
and they knew exactly when and where

2009
01:21:58,709 --> 01:21:58,080
these ufos would enter and exit the

2010
01:22:02,070 --> 01:21:58,719
water

2011
01:22:04,790 --> 01:22:02,080
at this point right there and that there

2012
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:04,800
was an underwater ufo base now

2013
01:22:08,070 --> 01:22:07,840
okay so i'm reading the emails and then

2014
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:08,080
i

2015
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:41,760
uh

2016
01:22:45,270 --> 01:22:43,920
episodes of fade to black and get caught

2017
01:22:46,870 --> 01:22:45,280
up but you know jimmy what really

2018
01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:46,880
clinched it for me the belief

2019
01:22:50,950 --> 01:22:48,639
when you believe or don't believe or

2020
01:22:52,629 --> 01:22:50,960
you're on the fence was flight 19 the

2021
01:22:55,590 --> 01:22:52,639
fact that those five

2022
01:22:56,950 --> 01:22:55,600
planes went down was you could maybe

2023
01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:56,960
explain that away

2024
01:23:00,149 --> 01:22:59,199
but the the plane that went looking for

2025
01:23:02,070 --> 01:23:00,159
them

2026
01:23:03,430 --> 01:23:02,080
also disappeared without a trace and

2027
01:23:06,070 --> 01:23:03,440
that was like okay

2028
01:23:06,790 --> 01:23:06,080
something's happening here and we can't

2029
01:23:09,990 --> 01:23:06,800
explain it

2030
01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:10,000
and it really does sway your sense of

2031
01:23:12,070 --> 01:23:10,560
belief

2032
01:23:14,470 --> 01:23:12,080
in that direction that there is

2033
01:23:16,629 --> 01:23:14,480
something there and

2034
01:23:18,229 --> 01:23:16,639
uh that was the clincher for me the fact

2035
01:23:21,750 --> 01:23:18,239
that the plane looking for him

2036
01:23:23,990 --> 01:23:21,760
disappeared was a big factor yeah and uh

2037
01:23:25,590 --> 01:23:24,000
and if you go back to flight 19 we can

2038
01:23:26,550 --> 01:23:25,600
stay on this for a minute before we get

2039
01:23:29,110 --> 01:23:26,560
to the next call

2040
01:23:30,470 --> 01:23:29,120
and and carlos thank you uh for the

2041
01:23:32,310 --> 01:23:30,480
phone call

2042
01:23:33,910 --> 01:23:32,320
thank you so much appreciate you guys

2043
01:23:34,629 --> 01:23:33,920
yeah thank you so much man have a great

2044
01:23:39,270 --> 01:23:34,639
night

2045
01:23:42,629 --> 01:23:39,280
um is uh when you are down

2046
01:23:45,910 --> 01:23:42,639
um in miami in fort lauderdale

2047
01:23:47,830 --> 01:23:45,920
in in that area bermuda's right there

2048
01:23:49,669 --> 01:23:47,840
you can't miss it you can get on a

2049
01:23:53,350 --> 01:23:49,679
sailboat head out you're going to

2050
01:23:55,430 --> 01:23:53,360
run into bermuda you also know where

2051
01:23:57,270 --> 01:23:55,440
florida is right it's right in bay

2052
01:24:00,390 --> 01:23:57,280
you're not going to get lost

2053
01:24:03,830 --> 01:24:00,400
and now we're talking about

2054
01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:03,840
a navy pilots

2055
01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:06,480
on a training mission taking off they

2056
01:24:10,870 --> 01:24:07,920
know where the coast is

2057
01:24:11,590 --> 01:24:10,880
they know what's up you don't need your

2058
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:11,600
uh

2059
01:24:15,590 --> 01:24:14,400
your compass right you know you know

2060
01:24:17,270 --> 01:24:15,600
where the sun is

2061
01:24:19,350 --> 01:24:17,280
you know where the coast is you know

2062
01:24:20,550 --> 01:24:19,360
where to turn you're not going to lose

2063
01:24:23,350 --> 01:24:20,560
your bearings

2064
01:24:24,790 --> 01:24:23,360
you're just not it's the coast of

2065
01:24:27,830 --> 01:24:24,800
florida

2066
01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:27,840
and they got lost and then they turn

2067
01:24:31,270 --> 01:24:30,400
around and the rescue plane which was a

2068
01:24:34,550 --> 01:24:31,280
seaplane

2069
01:24:37,830 --> 01:24:34,560
by the way crashes

2070
01:24:40,229 --> 01:24:37,840
gone not recovered um yeah

2071
01:24:41,110 --> 01:24:40,239
very strange so there's a lot of other

2072
01:24:43,910 --> 01:24:41,120
elements to

2073
01:24:45,590 --> 01:24:43,920
this and just not flight 19 it's the

2074
01:24:46,629 --> 01:24:45,600
other plane that went out the search

2075
01:24:49,669 --> 01:24:46,639
mission

2076
01:24:51,750 --> 01:24:49,679
it disappears and it's the coast of

2077
01:24:54,870 --> 01:24:51,760
florida i just have a

2078
01:24:57,590 --> 01:24:54,880
hard time uh wrapping my mind around

2079
01:24:59,189 --> 01:24:57,600
five pilots getting lost no it just

2080
01:25:01,270 --> 01:24:59,199
doesn't work for me

2081
01:25:02,229 --> 01:25:01,280
well i have been on the monsters of rock

2082
01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:02,239
cruise nine

2083
01:25:05,590 --> 01:25:04,880
times and every time i come home you

2084
01:25:08,229 --> 01:25:05,600
know i feel

2085
01:25:09,910 --> 01:25:08,239
a little a little strange after those

2086
01:25:10,709 --> 01:25:09,920
cruise events but i'm not sure it's

2087
01:25:12,470 --> 01:25:10,719
because we're

2088
01:25:14,629 --> 01:25:12,480
sailing through the bermuda triangle or

2089
01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:14,639
just 40 great rock bands out there

2090
01:25:17,990 --> 01:25:15,920
having a good time with 4

2091
01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:18,000
000 fans but you know i've been there i

2092
01:25:23,990 --> 01:25:20,320
have sailed through it and uh

2093
01:25:26,550 --> 01:25:24,000
it is a compelling mystery which i guess

2094
01:25:27,590 --> 01:25:26,560
if if your account of the emails is any

2095
01:25:29,830 --> 01:25:27,600
indication

2096
01:25:30,709 --> 01:25:29,840
that we may have a solution to that

2097
01:25:33,910 --> 01:25:30,719
let's uh

2098
01:25:36,310 --> 01:25:33,920
let's go to the next caller um

2099
01:25:37,750 --> 01:25:36,320
you know what ron got two i'm gonna say

2100
01:25:40,229 --> 01:25:37,760
this i'm hi you're live on fade to black

2101
01:25:42,310 --> 01:25:40,239
who's calling

2102
01:25:44,229 --> 01:25:42,320
yeah this is chris hey chris where are

2103
01:25:46,310 --> 01:25:44,239
you calling from

2104
01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:46,320
uh brother i'm from down in orlando

2105
01:25:53,750 --> 01:25:47,520
florida

2106
01:25:55,110 --> 01:25:53,760
yes i will if i run into them so i had a

2107
01:25:57,270 --> 01:25:55,120
quick question for you or

2108
01:25:59,990 --> 01:25:57,280
more of a theory uh just something i was

2109
01:26:02,310 --> 01:26:00,000
thinking of finishing up amy jacobs book

2110
01:26:03,830 --> 01:26:02,320
you know she talks about the russians do

2111
01:26:04,390 --> 01:26:03,840
you think that there's a possibility

2112
01:26:07,669 --> 01:26:04,400
that that

2113
01:26:09,430 --> 01:26:07,679
uh the project mogul was purposely

2114
01:26:10,870 --> 01:26:09,440
crashed to cover up for the other two

2115
01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:10,880
discs that were found

2116
01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:12,960
where one of them was found in the next

2117
01:26:17,350 --> 01:26:14,320
town over yeah

2118
01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:17,360
very controversial

2119
01:26:20,790 --> 01:26:19,600
a couple of years later yeah yeah very

2120
01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:20,800
controversial

2121
01:26:27,350 --> 01:26:23,920
uh closing to annie jacobson's book

2122
01:26:31,350 --> 01:26:27,360
and ron what uh chris is talking about

2123
01:26:34,790 --> 01:26:31,360
is is roswell and uh

2124
01:26:37,189 --> 01:26:34,800
uh that she

2125
01:26:38,390 --> 01:26:37,199
you know i don't want to i it's so

2126
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:38,400
controversial

2127
01:26:44,229 --> 01:26:41,840
but that it was a russian aircraft uh

2128
01:26:47,430 --> 01:26:44,239
that uh crashed in roswell and the

2129
01:26:50,390 --> 01:26:47,440
cover-up was a flying saucer

2130
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:50,400
it's almost too i i like annie but when

2131
01:26:52,870 --> 01:26:51,120
you hear

2132
01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:52,880
something like that and you know a lot

2133
01:26:56,070 --> 01:26:54,719
about roswell

2134
01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:56,080
do you think it could have been a

2135
01:27:02,149 --> 01:26:58,800
russian secret project

2136
01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:02,159
flying over new mexico

2137
01:27:08,709 --> 01:27:05,280
you know i do have the book and

2138
01:27:12,550 --> 01:27:08,719
it's been a while since i read it but

2139
01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:12,560
you know i i think anything's possible

2140
01:27:17,430 --> 01:27:15,760
with given the technology that all of

2141
01:27:21,189 --> 01:27:17,440
the superpowers have

2142
01:27:24,470 --> 01:27:21,199
probably uh held

2143
01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:24,480
back whether it was the nazis the the

2144
01:27:28,229 --> 01:27:25,760
russians

2145
01:27:30,149 --> 01:27:28,239
the americans the chinese i think the

2146
01:27:32,310 --> 01:27:30,159
technology has always been ahead

2147
01:27:34,550 --> 01:27:32,320
of whatever the public perception was

2148
01:27:38,390 --> 01:27:34,560
that what we had

2149
01:27:42,870 --> 01:27:38,400
uh that's an interesting uh

2150
01:27:46,790 --> 01:27:44,790
i don't know jimmy you're the expert on

2151
01:27:50,229 --> 01:27:46,800
this this subject as well

2152
01:27:51,110 --> 01:27:50,239
i i kind of think roswell was was the

2153
01:27:53,189 --> 01:27:51,120
real deal man

2154
01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:53,199
yeah after what i've heard and listened

2155
01:27:56,870 --> 01:27:54,960
to and heard you

2156
01:27:58,790 --> 01:27:56,880
speaking on the radio for so many years

2157
01:28:01,990 --> 01:27:58,800
i i i tend to

2158
01:28:02,950 --> 01:28:02,000
to think that the evidence outweighs any

2159
01:28:06,229 --> 01:28:02,960
of those other

2160
01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:06,239
theories i i like the way that you're

2161
01:28:11,830 --> 01:28:09,840
reticent right and and that's only

2162
01:28:14,229 --> 01:28:11,840
because

2163
01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:14,239
the there's so much out there about

2164
01:28:19,910 --> 01:28:16,560
roswell and you absorb it

2165
01:28:22,070 --> 01:28:19,920
and everything just falls into place too

2166
01:28:24,629 --> 01:28:22,080
many eyewitnesses too many things

2167
01:28:26,830 --> 01:28:24,639
and the cover-up the day after the the

2168
01:28:28,310 --> 01:28:26,840
weather balloon and everything that

2169
01:28:31,350 --> 01:28:28,320
resulted and

2170
01:28:32,950 --> 01:28:31,360
when annie came out with that well i

2171
01:28:34,950 --> 01:28:32,960
like to listen to everything

2172
01:28:36,550 --> 01:28:34,960
i do just you know just work what you

2173
01:28:37,189 --> 01:28:36,560
just said i like to listen to everything

2174
01:28:39,510 --> 01:28:37,199
and

2175
01:28:41,270 --> 01:28:39,520
but it wasn't strong enough for me to go

2176
01:28:43,350 --> 01:28:41,280
well you know what

2177
01:28:45,189 --> 01:28:43,360
i think annie's on to something it was

2178
01:28:47,189 --> 01:28:45,199
interesting to read

2179
01:28:49,510 --> 01:28:47,199
but it's gonna have to really be

2180
01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:49,520
something really really strong

2181
01:28:52,950 --> 01:28:52,239
uh for me to swing off of all of the

2182
01:28:56,470 --> 01:28:52,960
evidence

2183
01:28:56,870 --> 01:28:56,480
uh in in the corner of roswell that has

2184
01:29:01,350 --> 01:28:56,880
been

2185
01:29:08,229 --> 01:29:04,629
it's it's on you ron i agree

2186
01:29:11,110 --> 01:29:08,239
100 and the evidence

2187
01:29:12,870 --> 01:29:11,120
that that we've seen and heard anyway

2188
01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:12,880
and i've been there too i'm sure you've

2189
01:29:18,790 --> 01:29:15,360
been there many times jimmy but uh

2190
01:29:22,550 --> 01:29:18,800
uh without uh

2191
01:29:24,390 --> 01:29:22,560
actually seeing it or experiences i

2192
01:29:28,149 --> 01:29:24,400
i i do believe the evidence points in

2193
01:29:34,310 --> 01:29:31,669
you know i i'm not discounting any

2194
01:29:36,310 --> 01:29:34,320
posi as you say i'm reticent um i

2195
01:29:40,390 --> 01:29:36,320
believe i believe that uh it was

2196
01:29:41,470 --> 01:29:40,400
some type of vehicle and you and i have

2197
01:29:44,709 --> 01:29:41,480
talked about the

2198
01:29:47,189 --> 01:29:44,719
extraterrestrial versus other theories

2199
01:29:48,310 --> 01:29:47,199
i am a proponent of the time travel

2200
01:29:51,750 --> 01:29:48,320
theory myself

2201
01:29:55,189 --> 01:29:51,760
yep i believe that some at least some

2202
01:29:57,910 --> 01:29:55,199
of our visitors are from the future

2203
01:29:58,470 --> 01:29:57,920
and they're coming back in time to check

2204
01:30:01,110 --> 01:29:58,480
on us

2205
01:30:01,830 --> 01:30:01,120
or to do their experimentation or or

2206
01:30:03,830 --> 01:30:01,840
whatever

2207
01:30:04,870 --> 01:30:03,840
methods or purposes they're they're here

2208
01:30:06,790 --> 01:30:04,880
for i

2209
01:30:08,310 --> 01:30:06,800
i am somewhat a proponent of that time

2210
01:30:10,390 --> 01:30:08,320
travel theory now

2211
01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:10,400
maybe some of them are from other

2212
01:30:15,990 --> 01:30:12,960
dimensions other planets but i believe

2213
01:30:17,270 --> 01:30:16,000
myself personally that uh some of them

2214
01:30:19,270 --> 01:30:17,280
are from the future as well

2215
01:30:21,030 --> 01:30:19,280
yeah i'm right with you on that our

2216
01:30:24,229 --> 01:30:21,040
guest tonight ron keel

2217
01:30:24,790 --> 01:30:24,239
helping me man the phones this is faded

2218
01:30:27,350 --> 01:30:24,800
black it

2219
01:30:28,950 --> 01:30:27,360
is fader night we will be right back

2220
01:30:32,350 --> 01:30:28,960
after this short break with more of your

2221
01:30:35,350 --> 01:30:33,750
747-228-2051 this

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is fade to black i'm real jimmy church

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2241
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2242
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2243
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2251
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2252
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doesn't it especially now so go to

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2276
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[Music]

2278
01:33:25,030 --> 01:33:20,229
you are listening to fate to black with

2279
01:33:28,629 --> 01:33:27,590
hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to

2280
01:33:31,830 --> 01:33:28,639
jimmy church

2281
01:33:33,110 --> 01:33:31,840
this is revolution the revolution will

2282
01:33:40,350 --> 01:33:33,120
not be televised

2283
01:33:51,150 --> 01:33:48,830
[Music]

2284
01:34:02,830 --> 01:33:51,160
ciao

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01:34:10,420 --> 01:34:05,000
so

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01:34:10,430 --> 01:34:19,669
[Music]

2287
01:34:23,030 --> 01:34:21,590
welcome back fade to black i am your

2288
01:34:25,590 --> 01:34:23,040
host jimmy church

2289
01:34:30,950 --> 01:34:25,600
tonight fader night with ron keel

2290
01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:31,990
seven four seven two 747-228-2051-7472

2291
01:34:36,629 --> 01:34:34,800
eight two zero five one and uh

2292
01:34:38,149 --> 01:34:36,639
and and ron i wanna continue the

2293
01:34:41,189 --> 01:34:38,159
conversation though

2294
01:34:41,990 --> 01:34:41,199
uh that we had uh before the break which

2295
01:34:46,950 --> 01:34:42,000
is

2296
01:34:49,990 --> 01:34:46,960
we get back to the phones

2297
01:34:51,350 --> 01:34:50,000
um i find that very very interesting you

2298
01:34:53,669 --> 01:34:51,360
know we have the vast

2299
01:34:55,030 --> 01:34:53,679
uh distances that are out there with

2300
01:34:57,109 --> 01:34:55,040
space and

2301
01:34:58,709 --> 01:34:57,119
the universe and the milky way and how

2302
01:35:01,270 --> 01:34:58,719
long it would take to travel

2303
01:35:01,990 --> 01:35:01,280
uh to get here and so forth that's a

2304
01:35:05,189 --> 01:35:02,000
whole nother

2305
01:35:08,149 --> 01:35:05,199
conversation but time

2306
01:35:09,750 --> 01:35:08,159
travelers us from the future would make

2307
01:35:13,030 --> 01:35:09,760
a whole lot of sense

2308
01:35:15,590 --> 01:35:13,040
what makes you lean on that you know

2309
01:35:17,030 --> 01:35:15,600
it was an interview that i heard on one

2310
01:35:20,550 --> 01:35:17,040
of my favorite paranormal

2311
01:35:22,390 --> 01:35:20,560
shows with an author and the book is

2312
01:35:23,350 --> 01:35:22,400
upstairs i forget the name of the book

2313
01:35:26,149 --> 01:35:23,360
or the author

2314
01:35:27,590 --> 01:35:26,159
right now and i i don't uh i don't have

2315
01:35:29,030 --> 01:35:27,600
it in front of me jimmy but it was a

2316
01:35:30,870 --> 01:35:29,040
very compelling

2317
01:35:34,149 --> 01:35:30,880
set of interviews on several different

2318
01:35:36,070 --> 01:35:34,159
shows yours i believe richard cerrett

2319
01:35:37,990 --> 01:35:36,080
who i'm a big fan of as well had the

2320
01:35:39,590 --> 01:35:38,000
same author on his show and he presented

2321
01:35:40,709 --> 01:35:39,600
a pretty compelling argument to that

2322
01:35:44,709 --> 01:35:40,719
effect

2323
01:35:48,629 --> 01:35:44,719
and uh the the other part of this

2324
01:35:50,310 --> 01:35:48,639
have you had your own sighting

2325
01:35:51,830 --> 01:35:50,320
you know you asked me this last time

2326
01:35:53,510 --> 01:35:51,840
jimmy you put me on the spot and i

2327
01:35:55,669 --> 01:35:53,520
didn't remember it

2328
01:35:58,390 --> 01:35:55,679
until i was watching one of my favorite

2329
01:36:01,510 --> 01:35:58,400
shows paranormal caught on camera

2330
01:36:04,070 --> 01:36:01,520
and they were showing a ufo sighting

2331
01:36:05,990 --> 01:36:04,080
and it just all of a sudden it was it

2332
01:36:07,510 --> 01:36:06,000
just rang a bell and took me back to a

2333
01:36:11,030 --> 01:36:07,520
moment when i was

2334
01:36:15,350 --> 01:36:11,040
with my wife and kids traveling from

2335
01:36:18,149 --> 01:36:15,360
phoenix to los angeles back in the 80s

2336
01:36:19,510 --> 01:36:18,159
and we saw something out the window that

2337
01:36:22,390 --> 01:36:19,520
looked like

2338
01:36:24,229 --> 01:36:22,400
a biological kind of organism you call

2339
01:36:26,550 --> 01:36:24,239
it a jellyfish right

2340
01:36:27,270 --> 01:36:26,560
thing i'm sure you've seen the same

2341
01:36:29,430 --> 01:36:27,280
footage

2342
01:36:31,430 --> 01:36:29,440
that i'm talking about it it it's an

2343
01:36:31,750 --> 01:36:31,440
undulating jellyfish kind of thing and

2344
01:36:33,510 --> 01:36:31,760
you

2345
01:36:35,750 --> 01:36:33,520
think maybe it's a weather balloon but

2346
01:36:36,470 --> 01:36:35,760
no that that's really strange so i

2347
01:36:39,830 --> 01:36:36,480
pulled the car

2348
01:36:42,070 --> 01:36:39,840
over had a vhs camcorder at the time

2349
01:36:43,910 --> 01:36:42,080
and tried to get some footage out the

2350
01:36:45,350 --> 01:36:43,920
window but as you know it's it's

2351
01:36:47,350 --> 01:36:45,360
it's like trying to shoot a rattlesnake

2352
01:36:48,070 --> 01:36:47,360
with a 38 man it's not as easy as it

2353
01:36:50,790 --> 01:36:48,080
looks

2354
01:36:52,870 --> 01:36:50,800
the footage is shaky and blurry and uh

2355
01:36:53,430 --> 01:36:52,880
what i what i shot that day did not come

2356
01:36:55,430 --> 01:36:53,440
out

2357
01:36:56,950 --> 01:36:55,440
but we watched this thing all the way to

2358
01:36:58,550 --> 01:36:56,960
a town on the uh

2359
01:37:01,030 --> 01:36:58,560
california arizona border called

2360
01:37:01,750 --> 01:37:01,040
quartzite and then we stopped in

2361
01:37:04,149 --> 01:37:01,760
quartzite

2362
01:37:05,270 --> 01:37:04,159
to let the kids go to the bathroom and

2363
01:37:07,830 --> 01:37:05,280
fuel up

2364
01:37:08,629 --> 01:37:07,840
and when i got to quartzite the entire

2365
01:37:11,350 --> 01:37:08,639
town

2366
01:37:12,070 --> 01:37:11,360
was out in the parking lots looking up

2367
01:37:14,390 --> 01:37:12,080
at this thing

2368
01:37:15,270 --> 01:37:14,400
pointing at it going what the heck is

2369
01:37:18,070 --> 01:37:15,280
that

2370
01:37:18,950 --> 01:37:18,080
uh and to this day i can't explain it

2371
01:37:20,870 --> 01:37:18,960
but

2372
01:37:22,870 --> 01:37:20,880
i i when i saw that footage on

2373
01:37:25,830 --> 01:37:22,880
paranormal caught on camera

2374
01:37:26,870 --> 01:37:25,840
it really triggered that memory of uh me

2375
01:37:28,950 --> 01:37:26,880
seeing something that

2376
01:37:31,430 --> 01:37:28,960
i could not identify and obviously a

2377
01:37:33,910 --> 01:37:31,440
huge crowd of people an entire town

2378
01:37:35,030 --> 01:37:33,920
saw the same thing and agreed with me

2379
01:37:36,870 --> 01:37:35,040
now after spending

2380
01:37:38,550 --> 01:37:36,880
a lot of nights out in the arizona

2381
01:37:41,510 --> 01:37:38,560
desert camping and growing up

2382
01:37:42,550 --> 01:37:41,520
we saw a lot of stuff that we couldn't

2383
01:37:46,790 --> 01:37:42,560
explain

2384
01:37:50,070 --> 01:37:46,800
uh lights moving in a fashion that

2385
01:37:53,270 --> 01:37:50,080
conventional aircraft cannot possibly

2386
01:37:55,030 --> 01:37:53,280
duplicate we were close to uh luke air

2387
01:37:56,870 --> 01:37:55,040
force base out there and and

2388
01:37:58,470 --> 01:37:56,880
you never know but you're looking at it

2389
01:38:00,629 --> 01:37:58,480
thinking

2390
01:38:01,990 --> 01:38:00,639
that this this is something that we

2391
01:38:04,229 --> 01:38:02,000
can't explain it's it's

2392
01:38:05,750 --> 01:38:04,239
it's it's definitely unidentified as far

2393
01:38:09,189 --> 01:38:05,760
as i'm concerned so

2394
01:38:12,310 --> 01:38:09,199
i i do believe that

2395
01:38:16,550 --> 01:38:12,320
i have seen ufos

2396
01:38:18,390 --> 01:38:16,560
uh uaps things that we couldn't explain

2397
01:38:20,550 --> 01:38:18,400
that uh still

2398
01:38:22,790 --> 01:38:20,560
right now is is a very vivid memory and

2399
01:38:24,709 --> 01:38:22,800
i i do believe we should all spend more

2400
01:38:28,390 --> 01:38:24,719
time looking at the sky

2401
01:38:30,070 --> 01:38:28,400
because they're out there um

2402
01:38:31,830 --> 01:38:30,080
the nights that i've spent just laying

2403
01:38:33,109 --> 01:38:31,840
on a sleeping bag on my back in the

2404
01:38:34,229 --> 01:38:33,119
desert that's that's when you're going

2405
01:38:38,870 --> 01:38:34,239
to see it

2406
01:38:42,310 --> 01:38:38,880
i was uh speaking of roswell

2407
01:38:44,790 --> 01:38:42,320
i'm i'm on the uh the freeway

2408
01:38:47,510 --> 01:38:44,800
between albuquerque and roswell and

2409
01:38:51,030 --> 01:38:47,520
there's two freeways one that's going

2410
01:38:51,910 --> 01:38:51,040
uh west to east and and then you head

2411
01:38:54,229 --> 01:38:51,920
straight down

2412
01:38:55,910 --> 01:38:54,239
on whatever freeway the only one that

2413
01:38:59,830 --> 01:38:55,920
goes straight to roswell

2414
01:39:03,830 --> 01:38:59,840
and so uh we make that exit and

2415
01:39:05,430 --> 01:39:03,840
we pulled over it's rita and i

2416
01:39:07,430 --> 01:39:05,440
and we're on our way to the roswell

2417
01:39:10,629 --> 01:39:07,440
festival and so we

2418
01:39:17,109 --> 01:39:10,639
there was um this is what was crazy

2419
01:39:23,189 --> 01:39:20,709
you know a 1950s drive in for food

2420
01:39:24,790 --> 01:39:23,199
and i thought oh you know let's go here

2421
01:39:25,990 --> 01:39:24,800
because we don't have these in los

2422
01:39:27,910 --> 01:39:26,000
angeles and

2423
01:39:29,990 --> 01:39:27,920
we pulled in and we got all the normal

2424
01:39:33,510 --> 01:39:30,000
stuff you know triple cheeseburgers and

2425
01:39:35,430 --> 01:39:33,520
chili fries and and we both got shakes

2426
01:39:37,109 --> 01:39:35,440
and uh and then we get back on the

2427
01:39:37,590 --> 01:39:37,119
freeway and we've got all this food in

2428
01:39:41,270 --> 01:39:37,600
the car

2429
01:39:45,669 --> 01:39:41,280
but now we're driving and then

2430
01:39:49,430 --> 01:39:45,679
as rita goes oh my god

2431
01:39:52,709 --> 01:39:49,440
there's a flying saucer and i look up

2432
01:39:56,790 --> 01:39:52,719
and in the clouds

2433
01:39:57,750 --> 01:39:56,800
right there is a fly it's a ring of

2434
01:40:00,070 --> 01:39:57,760
lights

2435
01:40:01,990 --> 01:40:00,080
right and it's just in it it's above the

2436
01:40:03,189 --> 01:40:02,000
clouds and the clouds are like in front

2437
01:40:05,510 --> 01:40:03,199
of it

2438
01:40:07,030 --> 01:40:05,520
and i i have a heart attack i'm like

2439
01:40:10,790 --> 01:40:07,040
what are the odds of

2440
01:40:13,750 --> 01:40:10,800
this right roswell okay so

2441
01:40:15,109 --> 01:40:13,760
at that moment right there is a rest

2442
01:40:18,310 --> 01:40:15,119
stop

2443
01:40:21,590 --> 01:40:18,320
so um as i'm pulling and she free

2444
01:40:25,350 --> 01:40:21,600
and and she spills her

2445
01:40:27,750 --> 01:40:25,360
shake and now this is all over

2446
01:40:29,430 --> 01:40:27,760
the floor of the car and now we do have

2447
01:40:30,470 --> 01:40:29,440
to we're going to pull over anyway

2448
01:40:32,550 --> 01:40:30,480
because it's flying so

2449
01:40:34,149 --> 01:40:32,560
and it's right there right so we pull

2450
01:40:36,149 --> 01:40:34,159
over into the rest stop

2451
01:40:38,310 --> 01:40:36,159
and i get out of the car and i'm just

2452
01:40:41,830 --> 01:40:38,320
staring at this thing

2453
01:40:44,629 --> 01:40:41,840
in the clouds and nobody's tripping out

2454
01:40:46,629 --> 01:40:44,639
and i was just kind of you know and i

2455
01:40:49,109 --> 01:40:46,639
didn't want to make a scene

2456
01:40:50,149 --> 01:40:49,119
but up there the clouds just just

2457
01:40:53,590 --> 01:40:50,159
sitting there

2458
01:40:56,070 --> 01:40:53,600
is this flying saucer ring of lights

2459
01:40:56,629 --> 01:40:56,080
and uh so now i've got to help rita she

2460
01:40:59,430 --> 01:40:56,639
gets out

2461
01:41:00,310 --> 01:40:59,440
she's looking at it and uh we're taking

2462
01:41:02,870 --> 01:41:00,320
pictures and

2463
01:41:04,629 --> 01:41:02,880
we're cleaning the shake out of the car

2464
01:41:07,270 --> 01:41:04,639
and when i come back out and i'm looking

2465
01:41:09,270 --> 01:41:07,280
and it's like for for 10 minutes like

2466
01:41:12,709 --> 01:41:09,280
but it hasn't moved

2467
01:41:16,310 --> 01:41:12,719
and then slowly the clouds um

2468
01:41:19,590 --> 01:41:16,320
move it was like a

2469
01:41:22,709 --> 01:41:19,600
300 foot tall

2470
01:41:25,830 --> 01:41:22,719
street light wow

2471
01:41:29,430 --> 01:41:25,840
and now so now the fog's moving away

2472
01:41:32,709 --> 01:41:29,440
and now i can see i'm like

2473
01:41:36,310 --> 01:41:32,719
why are they building

2474
01:41:39,750 --> 01:41:36,320
a street light that tall out here on the

2475
01:41:43,430 --> 01:41:39,760
freeway to roswell

2476
01:41:46,709 --> 01:41:43,440
and and and after the clouds pulled away

2477
01:41:49,270 --> 01:41:46,719
and now i can see

2478
01:41:52,390 --> 01:41:49,280
you know the it was i'm not kidding when

2479
01:41:55,830 --> 01:41:52,400
i say 300 feet it was like 100 yards

2480
01:41:56,149 --> 01:41:55,840
or maybe even taller and tall enough to

2481
01:41:58,870 --> 01:41:56,159
be

2482
01:42:00,070 --> 01:41:58,880
in the clouds right or this fog and

2483
01:42:03,270 --> 01:42:00,080
everything that was rolling

2484
01:42:06,390 --> 01:42:03,280
through and but the intensity

2485
01:42:09,030 --> 01:42:06,400
ron that we went through for those

2486
01:42:11,109 --> 01:42:09,040
10 or 15 minutes looking at this this

2487
01:42:14,790 --> 01:42:11,119
circle of lights up in the clouds

2488
01:42:16,709 --> 01:42:14,800
and it's roswell i was i was beside

2489
01:42:19,669 --> 01:42:16,719
myself

2490
01:42:20,870 --> 01:42:19,679
you know what i don't doubt that we're

2491
01:42:24,629 --> 01:42:20,880
being watched

2492
01:42:27,310 --> 01:42:24,639
by probably more than one

2493
01:42:29,189 --> 01:42:27,320
set of entities as i mentioned earlier

2494
01:42:32,229 --> 01:42:29,199
extraterrestrials

2495
01:42:34,310 --> 01:42:32,239
time travelers from the future and

2496
01:42:36,709 --> 01:42:34,320
it's not hubris it's the fact that we

2497
01:42:39,510 --> 01:42:36,719
really are a fascinating

2498
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:39,520
human the human race is fascinating our

2499
01:42:45,350 --> 01:42:42,000
our capacity for both love and passion

2500
01:42:47,750 --> 01:42:45,360
and hatred and anger and all of the the

2501
01:42:48,629 --> 01:42:47,760
biological emotional physical and

2502
01:42:51,990 --> 01:42:48,639
spiritual

2503
01:42:53,189 --> 01:42:52,000
aspects of our race i do believe we're

2504
01:42:55,990 --> 01:42:53,199
special

2505
01:42:57,510 --> 01:42:56,000
and i would not be surprised to know

2506
01:43:00,950 --> 01:42:57,520
that uh

2507
01:43:03,430 --> 01:43:00,960
other races or people from other times

2508
01:43:04,950 --> 01:43:03,440
are observing us for all those reasons

2509
01:43:07,030 --> 01:43:04,960
the uh

2510
01:43:09,510 --> 01:43:07,040
uh the attention that you put on the

2511
01:43:10,149 --> 01:43:09,520
subject i wanted to go backwards first

2512
01:43:14,870 --> 01:43:10,159
but

2513
01:43:19,510 --> 01:43:17,910
what what do you make of the attention

2514
01:43:21,990 --> 01:43:19,520
that is happening right now

2515
01:43:23,270 --> 01:43:22,000
uh with the media and the uap task force

2516
01:43:27,669 --> 01:43:23,280
and the report

2517
01:43:29,189 --> 01:43:27,679
the leaked videos and all of the drama

2518
01:43:30,709 --> 01:43:29,199
that that has been out there for the

2519
01:43:32,709 --> 01:43:30,719
last few months

2520
01:43:35,910 --> 01:43:32,719
i find it fascinating jimmy and of

2521
01:43:39,590 --> 01:43:35,920
course i followed louie elizondo's uh

2522
01:43:40,950 --> 01:43:39,600
show his quest his uh agenda

2523
01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:40,960
whatever i know he was on your show

2524
01:43:44,070 --> 01:43:42,400
recently i just downloaded that i'm

2525
01:43:45,990 --> 01:43:44,080
gonna listen to it on the road

2526
01:43:47,750 --> 01:43:46,000
when i hit the road next week for our

2527
01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:47,760
tour i've got a ton of

2528
01:43:50,950 --> 01:43:49,600
fade to black episodes downloaded for

2529
01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:50,960
the plane rides and the road trips

2530
01:43:53,270 --> 01:43:52,560
because i'll be on tour for the next six

2531
01:43:56,470 --> 01:43:53,280
weeks

2532
01:43:59,669 --> 01:43:57,990
compelling interesting whatever you want

2533
01:44:02,629 --> 01:43:59,679
to call it that uh

2534
01:44:03,430 --> 01:44:02,639
you've got these two diametrically

2535
01:44:05,830 --> 01:44:03,440
opposed

2536
01:44:07,430 --> 01:44:05,840
viewpoints now coming from whether it's

2537
01:44:09,510 --> 01:44:07,440
lou elizondo and that

2538
01:44:10,470 --> 01:44:09,520
side of the fence where it's a potential

2539
01:44:13,270 --> 01:44:10,480
threat

2540
01:44:14,629 --> 01:44:13,280
and then you've got dr stephen greer who

2541
01:44:16,709 --> 01:44:14,639
will tell us that no

2542
01:44:18,830 --> 01:44:16,719
they're not a threat they're here to to

2543
01:44:22,550 --> 01:44:18,840
help us they're our friends and

2544
01:44:25,109 --> 01:44:22,560
i'm you know the the common denominator

2545
01:44:28,270 --> 01:44:25,119
here jimmy is all my life

2546
01:44:31,510 --> 01:44:28,280
for 60 years now we've had these

2547
01:44:33,270 --> 01:44:31,520
manufactured threats when i was a kid

2548
01:44:35,350 --> 01:44:33,280
growing up it was the cold war

2549
01:44:36,470 --> 01:44:35,360
all right the russians were the enemy

2550
01:44:38,709 --> 01:44:36,480
and the only way

2551
01:44:40,070 --> 01:44:38,719
to survive a nuclear attack is to hide

2552
01:44:42,070 --> 01:44:40,080
under your desk at school

2553
01:44:43,910 --> 01:44:42,080
right right we had those drills in

2554
01:44:45,750 --> 01:44:43,920
school where okay

2555
01:44:47,270 --> 01:44:45,760
the alarm goes off and you have to hide

2556
01:44:48,149 --> 01:44:47,280
under your desk like that's going to

2557
01:44:50,229 --> 01:44:48,159
really save you

2558
01:44:52,070 --> 01:44:50,239
right right and then and then of course

2559
01:44:52,950 --> 01:44:52,080
the the threats have continued through

2560
01:44:56,390 --> 01:44:52,960
the years

2561
01:44:57,430 --> 01:44:56,400
from uh communism to terrorism the war

2562
01:45:02,070 --> 01:44:57,440
on drugs

2563
01:45:03,830 --> 01:45:02,080
covet 19 all these they're threats and

2564
01:45:06,629 --> 01:45:03,840
it seems to me

2565
01:45:08,870 --> 01:45:06,639
it just feels like the military

2566
01:45:11,910 --> 01:45:08,880
industrial complex

2567
01:45:15,030 --> 01:45:11,920
and the big pharmaceutical companies

2568
01:45:15,430 --> 01:45:15,040
have to manufacture these threats to

2569
01:45:18,470 --> 01:45:15,440
stay

2570
01:45:21,830 --> 01:45:18,480
in business and

2571
01:45:24,950 --> 01:45:21,840
i i i do not believe they're a threat

2572
01:45:27,350 --> 01:45:24,960
like elizondo and his his team does

2573
01:45:28,870 --> 01:45:27,360
potentially of course you have to go by

2574
01:45:30,870 --> 01:45:28,880
the book and say anything that's

2575
01:45:34,229 --> 01:45:30,880
invading our airspace

2576
01:45:35,189 --> 01:45:34,239
is a potential threat but as dr stephen

2577
01:45:37,350 --> 01:45:35,199
greer says

2578
01:45:38,229 --> 01:45:37,360
if they were a threat we'd already be

2579
01:45:41,590 --> 01:45:38,239
gone

2580
01:45:44,709 --> 01:45:41,600
you know so uh i tend to

2581
01:45:47,189 --> 01:45:44,719
i really enjoyed and continue to enjoy

2582
01:45:51,350 --> 01:45:47,199
dr steven greer's work and his

2583
01:45:53,030 --> 01:45:51,360
his uh efforts in this field

2584
01:45:54,950 --> 01:45:53,040
part of that is because i want to stay

2585
01:45:56,229 --> 01:45:54,960
positive and believe in the future and

2586
01:45:58,870 --> 01:45:56,239
think that everything's going to be

2587
01:46:01,750 --> 01:45:58,880
great and as opposed to we're gonna all

2588
01:46:05,109 --> 01:46:01,760
perish in an alien invasion next week

2589
01:46:05,430 --> 01:46:05,119
but i i i have a hard time buying every

2590
01:46:08,550 --> 01:46:05,440
new

2591
01:46:11,669 --> 01:46:08,560
threat that comes along how do you

2592
01:46:14,950 --> 01:46:11,679
um and it's it's it's interesting that

2593
01:46:17,590 --> 01:46:14,960
you recognize both sides

2594
01:46:18,470 --> 01:46:17,600
how do you deal with that because you're

2595
01:46:21,189 --> 01:46:18,480
being pulled

2596
01:46:21,510 --> 01:46:21,199
right it's it's it's always there you

2597
01:46:24,629 --> 01:46:21,520
know

2598
01:46:30,470 --> 01:46:24,639
fear and threat and then the other side

2599
01:46:33,430 --> 01:46:30,480
saying no how do you balance the two

2600
01:46:33,990 --> 01:46:33,440
with logic i think you know and in life

2601
01:46:35,750 --> 01:46:34,000
jimmy

2602
01:46:37,590 --> 01:46:35,760
everything is a potential threat every

2603
01:46:38,709 --> 01:46:37,600
time i get on the motorcycle every time

2604
01:46:41,270 --> 01:46:38,719
i drive the rv

2605
01:46:42,149 --> 01:46:41,280
across the tundra to get to the next gig

2606
01:46:45,510 --> 01:46:42,159
every time we

2607
01:46:49,270 --> 01:46:45,520
we we step out our door

2608
01:46:52,470 --> 01:46:49,280
we're always threatened by danger danger

2609
01:47:00,149 --> 01:46:56,310
it just seems to me that stephen greer

2610
01:47:03,189 --> 01:47:00,159
has a pretty solid argument

2611
01:47:04,149 --> 01:47:03,199
in the fact that uh if if we were being

2612
01:47:09,189 --> 01:47:04,159
threatened

2613
01:47:10,629 --> 01:47:09,199
we would know it or wouldn't

2614
01:47:12,470 --> 01:47:10,639
i don't know man i don't think we

2615
01:47:14,390 --> 01:47:12,480
wouldn't be here where do you stand on

2616
01:47:18,310 --> 01:47:14,400
that because that's the dichotomy of the

2617
01:47:22,149 --> 01:47:18,320
the entire ufo slash uap

2618
01:47:25,350 --> 01:47:22,159
dialogue these days is it

2619
01:47:25,910 --> 01:47:25,360
uh are we being threatened or is that

2620
01:47:28,229 --> 01:47:25,920
threat

2621
01:47:30,070 --> 01:47:28,239
manufactured so that we will be prepared

2622
01:47:33,430 --> 01:47:30,080
for a false flag

2623
01:47:34,550 --> 01:47:33,440
when a fake alien invasion causes us all

2624
01:47:37,189 --> 01:47:34,560
to

2625
01:47:38,310 --> 01:47:37,199
cower in fear yeah and and it's it's

2626
01:47:42,070 --> 01:47:38,320
such a great point

2627
01:47:46,550 --> 01:47:42,080
and this is this is this is my take

2628
01:47:50,229 --> 01:47:46,560
i'm just gonna let it fly we

2629
01:47:54,310 --> 01:47:50,239
as humans ron

2630
01:47:57,830 --> 01:47:54,320
we're we're born we learn things

2631
01:48:00,709 --> 01:47:57,840
um we go through our changes five six

2632
01:48:03,350 --> 01:48:00,719
seven eight nine ten years old and then

2633
01:48:04,149 --> 01:48:03,360
you're one person then you're fifteen

2634
01:48:07,750 --> 01:48:04,159
you're another

2635
01:48:11,590 --> 01:48:07,760
different person

2636
01:48:13,750 --> 01:48:11,600
you mature you get smarter and then

2637
01:48:14,629 --> 01:48:13,760
you know uh you know you get into your

2638
01:48:18,629 --> 01:48:14,639
30s and 40

2639
01:48:21,109 --> 01:48:18,639
we go through those changes and

2640
01:48:23,109 --> 01:48:21,119
and we're not the same person that we

2641
01:48:26,390 --> 01:48:23,119
were 20 or 30 years ago

2642
01:48:29,830 --> 01:48:26,400
the human race is the same thing

2643
01:48:32,470 --> 01:48:29,840
the human race is growing up and

2644
01:48:34,870 --> 01:48:32,480
where we are today um with our

2645
01:48:37,990 --> 01:48:34,880
understandings of of consciousness

2646
01:48:38,709 --> 01:48:38,000
and empathy and and compassion and love

2647
01:48:41,669 --> 01:48:38,719
and hate

2648
01:48:42,470 --> 01:48:41,679
and all of that stuff comes in but we

2649
01:48:44,950 --> 01:48:42,480
are

2650
01:48:46,070 --> 01:48:44,960
different than we were 5 000 years ago

2651
01:48:47,990 --> 01:48:46,080
we are different now

2652
01:48:50,709 --> 01:48:48,000
today than we were just a hundred years

2653
01:48:54,070 --> 01:48:50,719
ago where are we going to be

2654
01:48:57,350 --> 01:48:54,080
in a thousand years are

2655
01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:57,360
are we going to be uh

2656
01:49:03,830 --> 01:49:00,480
rid of weapons and murder

2657
01:49:04,950 --> 01:49:03,840
and and war and and think are we going

2658
01:49:08,629 --> 01:49:04,960
to mature

2659
01:49:09,990 --> 01:49:08,639
into that of course we are and we're on

2660
01:49:14,470 --> 01:49:10,000
our way to that

2661
01:49:17,430 --> 01:49:14,480
now and and i think that we realize uh

2662
01:49:18,470 --> 01:49:17,440
you know how how stupid war you know

2663
01:49:23,270 --> 01:49:18,480
truly is

2664
01:49:28,310 --> 01:49:23,280
so if that's the way that i feel

2665
01:49:30,950 --> 01:49:28,320
et that is a 10 000 years more advanced

2666
01:49:33,109 --> 01:49:30,960
than us which is a blip on the radar

2667
01:49:35,830 --> 01:49:33,119
of of history and the age of the

2668
01:49:39,750 --> 01:49:35,840
universe or a million years advance

2669
01:49:43,189 --> 01:49:39,760
they must have evolved past

2670
01:49:46,390 --> 01:49:43,199
war and and hate and weapons

2671
01:49:48,870 --> 01:49:46,400
and divisiveness and racism and

2672
01:49:49,910 --> 01:49:48,880
and everything that that complicates us

2673
01:49:53,350 --> 01:49:49,920
today

2674
01:49:56,790 --> 01:49:53,360
and they would be

2675
01:50:00,310 --> 01:49:56,800
uh they may not even have a body

2676
01:50:03,990 --> 01:50:00,320
right they may just be energy and

2677
01:50:05,270 --> 01:50:04,000
and things but would they be interested

2678
01:50:16,229 --> 01:50:05,280
in

2679
01:50:19,430 --> 01:50:16,239
really don't they know that we're here

2680
01:50:22,830 --> 01:50:19,440
of course they know that we're here and

2681
01:50:26,109 --> 01:50:22,840
and could there be um

2682
01:50:28,790 --> 01:50:26,119
uh a species of

2683
01:50:29,030 --> 01:50:28,800
extraterrestrial intelligence out there

2684
01:50:32,470 --> 01:50:29,040
an

2685
01:50:35,910 --> 01:50:32,480
civilization

2686
01:50:37,510 --> 01:50:35,920
that is warring that is full of hate and

2687
01:50:40,629 --> 01:50:37,520
that just wants to conquer

2688
01:50:43,910 --> 01:50:40,639
sure but i don't think that's what

2689
01:50:47,510 --> 01:50:43,920
the universe is about or this milky way

2690
01:50:50,229 --> 01:50:47,520
otherwise we would truly know that

2691
01:50:51,109 --> 01:50:50,239
and and that's that's my take i think

2692
01:50:59,030 --> 01:50:51,119
that

2693
01:51:00,950 --> 01:50:59,040
uh hate and and and conquer

2694
01:51:02,950 --> 01:51:00,960
and that's it because i think that i i

2695
01:51:05,990 --> 01:51:02,960
base it on us

2696
01:51:07,669 --> 01:51:06,000
ron and that that's that's my take i

2697
01:51:09,510 --> 01:51:07,679
agree with that and and certainly

2698
01:51:12,709 --> 01:51:09,520
appreciate you giving your take

2699
01:51:16,470 --> 01:51:12,719
on your show tonight and at other times

2700
01:51:18,790 --> 01:51:16,480
as a fan of paranormal talk radio

2701
01:51:21,109 --> 01:51:18,800
i i understand and plus being a

2702
01:51:21,750 --> 01:51:21,119
broadcaster myself you can't always take

2703
01:51:25,109 --> 01:51:21,760
a side

2704
01:51:26,870 --> 01:51:25,119
i our friend george nori often

2705
01:51:28,629 --> 01:51:26,880
will not tell you what he thinks or

2706
01:51:29,910 --> 01:51:28,639
believes he will elicit from the

2707
01:51:31,990 --> 01:51:29,920
listeners or from

2708
01:51:34,149 --> 01:51:32,000
whoever he's interviewing what their

2709
01:51:36,070 --> 01:51:34,159
take is but he won't always say this is

2710
01:51:37,910 --> 01:51:36,080
what i think or this is what i believe

2711
01:51:39,350 --> 01:51:37,920
so i really appreciate you sharing that

2712
01:51:39,830 --> 01:51:39,360
take with us and i can't agree with you

2713
01:51:42,950 --> 01:51:39,840
more

2714
01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:42,960
well and and and but you're right

2715
01:51:46,709 --> 01:51:45,440
so when i have a guest on the show it's

2716
01:51:48,629 --> 01:51:46,719
all about the guests

2717
01:51:50,790 --> 01:51:48,639
you know i'm not going to spend you know

2718
01:51:54,070 --> 01:51:50,800
15 minutes rambling

2719
01:51:56,870 --> 01:51:54,080
uh with a guest on on on my thoughts and

2720
01:52:00,470 --> 01:51:56,880
stuff but when i do go on other shows

2721
01:52:04,629 --> 01:52:00,480
i am able to uh get my yayas out

2722
01:52:07,270 --> 01:52:04,639
right yeah and i've got a lot to say

2723
01:52:08,070 --> 01:52:07,280
most of the time it's it's all bottled

2724
01:52:15,669 --> 01:52:08,080
in

2725
01:52:19,189 --> 01:52:15,679
ron um as i have gone through my

2726
01:52:21,430 --> 01:52:19,199
my journey and uh through

2727
01:52:22,950 --> 01:52:21,440
thousands of shows and interviews and

2728
01:52:25,270 --> 01:52:22,960
conversation but there's all

2729
01:52:26,470 --> 01:52:25,280
all the research that goes into that too

2730
01:52:30,550 --> 01:52:26,480
as well

2731
01:52:31,750 --> 01:52:30,560
and i have acquired yeah sure a lot of

2732
01:52:35,030 --> 01:52:31,760
knowledge

2733
01:52:35,430 --> 01:52:35,040
but it formulates an opinion and as you

2734
01:52:41,669 --> 01:52:35,440
get

2735
01:52:43,750 --> 01:52:41,679
more and more solidified but i've always

2736
01:52:45,830 --> 01:52:43,760
kept them inside of myself

2737
01:52:47,510 --> 01:52:45,840
and i don't get a chance to express it

2738
01:52:50,470 --> 01:52:47,520
uh that often

2739
01:52:50,790 --> 01:52:50,480
for good reason i'm i'm an interviewer

2740
01:52:52,950 --> 01:52:50,800
right

2741
01:52:54,310 --> 01:52:52,960
exactly but on nights like this open

2742
01:52:57,030 --> 01:52:54,320
lines and

2743
01:52:57,990 --> 01:52:57,040
uh then people are gonna ask you what do

2744
01:53:00,470 --> 01:52:58,000
you think about this

2745
01:53:02,310 --> 01:53:00,480
what do you think about that was it was

2746
01:53:03,830 --> 01:53:02,320
roswell a russian aircraft or not

2747
01:53:05,510 --> 01:53:03,840
they're going to ask you your take on it

2748
01:53:07,510 --> 01:53:05,520
so that's one reason why

2749
01:53:09,669 --> 01:53:07,520
the open lines are so important and so

2750
01:53:11,350 --> 01:53:09,679
much fun and i'm really enjoying being a

2751
01:53:13,990 --> 01:53:11,360
part of your open lines tonight

2752
01:53:15,830 --> 01:53:14,000
on fade to black yeah and uh and and

2753
01:53:18,390 --> 01:53:15,840
we'll get back to that i'm i'm

2754
01:53:20,709 --> 01:53:18,400
i'm having too much fun talking to you

2755
01:53:23,589 --> 01:53:20,719
and uh and so is everybody else they're

2756
01:53:25,669 --> 01:53:23,599
they're they're listening but uh take me

2757
01:53:29,510 --> 01:53:25,679
back for a second

2758
01:53:33,350 --> 01:53:29,520
um on your paranormal journey was there

2759
01:53:35,510 --> 01:53:33,360
a a key a key point that

2760
01:53:37,990 --> 01:53:35,520
that you know you hit a fork in the road

2761
01:53:40,709 --> 01:53:38,000
and and now you're going down

2762
01:53:42,550 --> 01:53:40,719
this uh conspiracy paranormal road what

2763
01:53:45,030 --> 01:53:42,560
happened

2764
01:53:46,390 --> 01:53:45,040
you know i i think we all have that same

2765
01:53:48,470 --> 01:53:46,400
common

2766
01:53:50,310 --> 01:53:48,480
motivation is that we we all like to

2767
01:53:53,510 --> 01:53:50,320
know the truth

2768
01:53:55,990 --> 01:53:53,520
about the mysteries

2769
01:53:58,550 --> 01:53:56,000
of the universe and the unexplained it

2770
01:54:05,350 --> 01:54:01,669
it didn't start with any one epiphany

2771
01:54:08,709 --> 01:54:05,360
for me but i was raised in a environment

2772
01:54:09,589 --> 01:54:08,719
that was not too religious but i had a

2773
01:54:13,510 --> 01:54:09,599
lot of different

2774
01:54:15,910 --> 01:54:13,520
influences my parents were

2775
01:54:17,750 --> 01:54:15,920
not church goers but they had their set

2776
01:54:19,510 --> 01:54:17,760
of beliefs and then i had a cousin who

2777
01:54:20,229 --> 01:54:19,520
was a buddhist and then i went to a

2778
01:54:22,229 --> 01:54:20,239
catholic

2779
01:54:23,589 --> 01:54:22,239
school in first grade and then i i had

2780
01:54:25,430 --> 01:54:23,599
friends who were jewish and

2781
01:54:27,430 --> 01:54:25,440
i started to see all these different

2782
01:54:29,109 --> 01:54:27,440
viewpoints and beliefs

2783
01:54:30,629 --> 01:54:29,119
so at that point you start wondering

2784
01:54:31,270 --> 01:54:30,639
well what's the truth i'd really like to

2785
01:54:34,550 --> 01:54:31,280
know you know

2786
01:54:37,270 --> 01:54:34,560
we of course the big answer is

2787
01:54:38,709 --> 01:54:37,280
what happens after we die is there life

2788
01:54:41,669 --> 01:54:38,719
after death are we

2789
01:54:42,390 --> 01:54:41,679
is there a heaven or a hell are we gonna

2790
01:54:44,790 --> 01:54:42,400
live on

2791
01:54:46,550 --> 01:54:44,800
after this plane and everybody's got

2792
01:54:48,470 --> 01:54:46,560
their own set of beliefs

2793
01:54:50,070 --> 01:54:48,480
which i find is fascinating of course

2794
01:54:52,149 --> 01:54:50,080
the greeks believed in apollo

2795
01:54:53,350 --> 01:54:52,159
and zeus and you know what that was

2796
01:54:56,070 --> 01:54:53,360
their gods but

2797
01:54:58,550 --> 01:54:56,080
i think we know now that that that's

2798
01:55:02,470 --> 01:54:58,560
probably mythology

2799
01:55:04,390 --> 01:55:02,480
and the search for the truth really

2800
01:55:06,149 --> 01:55:04,400
began to hit home for me when i was

2801
01:55:09,270 --> 01:55:06,159
exploring

2802
01:55:12,390 --> 01:55:09,280
the old indian ruins uh

2803
01:55:14,149 --> 01:55:12,400
pueblos in the southwest uh

2804
01:55:16,709 --> 01:55:14,159
going back through native american

2805
01:55:17,750 --> 01:55:16,719
history as a kid exploring some of these

2806
01:55:19,990 --> 01:55:17,760
places

2807
01:55:21,750 --> 01:55:20,000
and starting to ask questions about our

2808
01:55:23,589 --> 01:55:21,760
human history and then

2809
01:55:25,189 --> 01:55:23,599
you get exposed to books like chariots

2810
01:55:26,790 --> 01:55:25,199
of the gods like which changed all of

2811
01:55:28,390 --> 01:55:26,800
our lives i'm sure you and

2812
01:55:30,950 --> 01:55:28,400
everybody else in this in this

2813
01:55:33,109 --> 01:55:30,960
paranormal field cherries to the gods

2814
01:55:35,830 --> 01:55:33,119
and the bermuda triangle and all those

2815
01:55:38,390 --> 01:55:35,840
books that ask those questions

2816
01:55:40,709 --> 01:55:38,400
and i think we all know that we're never

2817
01:55:43,750 --> 01:55:40,719
really going to know the truth man if

2818
01:55:47,990 --> 01:55:43,760
if we could just look back and see

2819
01:55:51,990 --> 01:55:48,000
human history from time immemorial what

2820
01:55:55,189 --> 01:55:52,000
we have how the last 10 000 20 000 or

2821
01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:55,199
even longer how how those years have

2822
01:55:58,830 --> 01:55:57,040
played out as opposed

2823
01:56:01,109 --> 01:55:58,840
to the history that we've all been

2824
01:56:04,390 --> 01:56:01,119
taught and

2825
01:56:07,030 --> 01:56:04,400
questioning authority whether

2826
01:56:07,510 --> 01:56:07,040
it's the archaeologists or the priests

2827
01:56:11,990 --> 01:56:07,520
right

2828
01:56:13,750 --> 01:56:12,000
answers or maybe there's more to it that

2829
01:56:15,270 --> 01:56:13,760
that you know they're not telling us or

2830
01:56:17,750 --> 01:56:15,280
they don't know either

2831
01:56:18,709 --> 01:56:17,760
um and you know i think that's my

2832
01:56:21,430 --> 01:56:18,719
biggest question

2833
01:56:23,350 --> 01:56:21,440
i i will welcome what happens when i die

2834
01:56:25,910 --> 01:56:23,360
when i die when it's time to go

2835
01:56:26,470 --> 01:56:25,920
whatever happens next i'll do my best to

2836
01:56:29,189 --> 01:56:26,480
adapt

2837
01:56:29,990 --> 01:56:29,199
to that next plane but i would really

2838
01:56:33,270 --> 01:56:30,000
love to know

2839
01:56:35,189 --> 01:56:33,280
the history of the human race how

2840
01:56:36,550 --> 01:56:35,199
long have the pyramids have been there

2841
01:56:39,910 --> 01:56:36,560
is robert scotch is

2842
01:56:41,750 --> 01:56:39,920
is he correct the sphinx can you imagine

2843
01:56:42,629 --> 01:56:41,760
watching a movie of the building of the

2844
01:56:45,750 --> 01:56:42,639
sphinx or

2845
01:56:49,030 --> 01:56:45,760
gobekli tepe or any of these

2846
01:56:52,149 --> 01:56:49,040
mysteries that we are all fascinated by

2847
01:56:53,750 --> 01:56:52,159
that to me is i would just love to

2848
01:56:55,350 --> 01:56:53,760
to know some of those answers which

2849
01:56:58,470 --> 01:56:55,360
we're probably never going to know

2850
01:57:00,070 --> 01:56:58,480
but the search and the journey is uh

2851
01:57:01,990 --> 01:57:00,080
the best part of the whole deal have you

2852
01:57:05,189 --> 01:57:02,000
been to chaco canyon

2853
01:57:07,589 --> 01:57:05,199
amazing

2854
01:57:08,790 --> 01:57:07,599
day there i did a video shoot in

2855
01:57:11,750 --> 01:57:08,800
albuquerque

2856
01:57:13,189 --> 01:57:11,760
in 2014 and it was part of the deal

2857
01:57:15,109 --> 01:57:13,199
we're going to take an extra couple of

2858
01:57:18,149 --> 01:57:15,119
days and we're going to chaco canyon

2859
01:57:21,030 --> 01:57:18,159
wow and the uh the the

2860
01:57:21,350 --> 01:57:21,040
the feeling that you get in a place like

2861
01:57:23,589 --> 01:57:21,360
that

2862
01:57:25,510 --> 01:57:23,599
and i didn't even know all of the

2863
01:57:27,430 --> 01:57:25,520
details or history that i know now i

2864
01:57:30,950 --> 01:57:27,440
didn't know that all of the lines were

2865
01:57:34,550 --> 01:57:30,960
yes uh constructed according to the uh

2866
01:57:37,589 --> 01:57:34,560
north south uh east west stars

2867
01:57:39,990 --> 01:57:37,599
i had no idea constellations yes

2868
01:57:40,950 --> 01:57:40,000
yeah and i i've tried to do as much

2869
01:57:44,470 --> 01:57:40,960
research as i

2870
01:57:47,750 --> 01:57:44,480
i could since my visit to chaco canyon

2871
01:57:50,550 --> 01:57:47,760
just to enhance that memory

2872
01:57:51,990 --> 01:57:50,560
chaco canyon is one of and we're blessed

2873
01:57:55,589 --> 01:57:52,000
man it's right here in the united

2874
01:57:58,070 --> 01:57:55,599
states but i i look at that

2875
01:57:58,790 --> 01:57:58,080
this is what this is what messes with my

2876
01:58:01,669 --> 01:57:58,800
head

2877
01:58:02,149 --> 01:58:01,679
yes it is the alignment and it's it's

2878
01:58:05,430 --> 01:58:02,159
not

2879
01:58:08,550 --> 01:58:05,440
one it's uh it's

2880
01:58:11,990 --> 01:58:08,560
a dozen different uh

2881
01:58:15,109 --> 01:58:12,000
temples uh uh in that area

2882
01:58:16,950 --> 01:58:15,119
that all align up uh with with the

2883
01:58:19,109 --> 01:58:16,960
seasons and the years and

2884
01:58:21,910 --> 01:58:19,119
the solstices and things there's that

2885
01:58:26,310 --> 01:58:21,920
part but the other part for me

2886
01:58:29,830 --> 01:58:26,320
is the stairs the square windows

2887
01:58:34,629 --> 01:58:29,840
and the architecture that

2888
01:58:34,870 --> 01:58:34,639
that culture didn't have a any knowledge

2889
01:58:38,709 --> 01:58:34,880
of

2890
01:58:42,149 --> 01:58:38,719
rome or greece or egypt or

2891
01:58:45,510 --> 01:58:42,159
south america and but the construction

2892
01:58:47,669 --> 01:58:45,520
is is so similar and it just makes you

2893
01:58:50,870 --> 01:58:47,679
wonder how human dna

2894
01:58:53,030 --> 01:58:50,880
can come up with these solutions um

2895
01:58:53,990 --> 01:58:53,040
independent of each other and chaco

2896
01:58:56,390 --> 01:58:54,000
canyon

2897
01:58:58,229 --> 01:58:56,400
is the perfect evidence of that

2898
01:58:58,950 --> 01:58:58,239
absolutely they didn't even have the

2899
01:59:02,149 --> 01:58:58,960
wheel

2900
01:59:03,910 --> 01:59:02,159
why do they have all know those roads

2901
01:59:05,270 --> 01:59:03,920
why do you need all these roads you

2902
01:59:07,669 --> 01:59:05,280
don't have the wheel

2903
01:59:08,550 --> 01:59:07,679
and there's no real evidence of

2904
01:59:10,310 --> 01:59:08,560
habitation

2905
01:59:11,830 --> 01:59:10,320
it's it's a place in the middle of

2906
01:59:14,870 --> 01:59:11,840
nowhere that was built for

2907
01:59:16,149 --> 01:59:14,880
worship for spiritual and metaphysical

2908
01:59:19,030 --> 01:59:16,159
purposes

2909
01:59:19,830 --> 01:59:19,040
uh so there's a mystery on top of other

2910
01:59:22,550 --> 01:59:19,840
mysteries

2911
01:59:23,910 --> 01:59:22,560
to that place that uh i i don't know

2912
01:59:25,990 --> 01:59:23,920
that we'll ever have the answers but

2913
01:59:28,390 --> 01:59:26,000
it's fascinating contemplating them

2914
01:59:29,589 --> 01:59:28,400
yeah it is and uh as we head to the

2915
01:59:31,910 --> 01:59:29,599
break here

2916
01:59:34,470 --> 01:59:31,920
um the the part for me that you're

2917
01:59:37,669 --> 01:59:34,480
referring to

2918
01:59:38,149 --> 01:59:37,679
they couldn't grow food everything had

2919
01:59:40,390 --> 01:59:38,159
to be

2920
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brought in and there must have been

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thousands of people

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building all of that we'll be right back

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our guest tonight helping me man the

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phones uh we'll get to the phones in

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just a second i know that

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ron and i were yapping in the last

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02:04:48,069 --> 02:04:46,400
segment but uh seven four seven two two

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eight two zero five one

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and uh and and and so ron check this out

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um over in the youtube chat uh

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uh david uh hatcher childress has just

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02:05:07,510 --> 02:05:03,599
shown up

3046
02:05:10,709 --> 02:05:07,520
in the chat wow well no way okay so

3047
02:05:13,750 --> 02:05:10,719
hello david well so i said

3048
02:05:16,149 --> 02:05:13,760
um i said okay this is a test when was

3049
02:05:19,990 --> 02:05:16,159
the last time we hung out

3050
02:05:24,790 --> 02:05:20,000
and uh and and david

3051
02:05:28,069 --> 02:05:26,709
he says i can't remember i've been very

3052
02:05:31,270 --> 02:05:28,079
busy lately

3053
02:05:33,990 --> 02:05:31,280
david you know exactly okay give me the

3054
02:05:37,109 --> 02:05:34,000
last two times

3055
02:05:41,189 --> 02:05:37,119
we hung out and one of them is

3056
02:05:44,470 --> 02:05:41,199
very very very specific

3057
02:05:47,750 --> 02:05:44,480
and it involved a motorcycle so

3058
02:05:50,390 --> 02:05:47,760
david popped that up and

3059
02:05:51,030 --> 02:05:50,400
then i'll find out if it's really david

3060
02:05:55,430 --> 02:05:51,040
hatcher

3061
02:05:59,669 --> 02:05:57,990
i just got i gotta know it'd be really

3062
02:06:01,270 --> 02:05:59,679
cool if it is david uh

3063
02:06:04,790 --> 02:06:01,280
hanging out with everybody i don't want

3064
02:06:07,990 --> 02:06:04,800
to bum bum everybody out of the chair

3065
02:06:10,310 --> 02:06:08,000
that's not really david it may be so

3066
02:06:12,390 --> 02:06:10,320
i i'll keep looking for your answer

3067
02:06:14,870 --> 02:06:12,400
david you know

3068
02:06:16,550 --> 02:06:14,880
you know exactly what i'm talking about

3069
02:06:19,270 --> 02:06:16,560
okay um

3070
02:06:20,550 --> 02:06:19,280
ron i'll give it to you say it give me

3071
02:06:24,470 --> 02:06:20,560
those words

3072
02:06:28,069 --> 02:06:24,480
this is fade to black who are you

3073
02:06:34,870 --> 02:06:31,750
you're live yo

3074
02:06:36,709 --> 02:06:34,880
yes yes okay sorry this this is

3075
02:06:37,109 --> 02:06:36,719
christian again um called you last night

3076
02:06:39,109 --> 02:06:37,119
man

3077
02:06:40,229 --> 02:06:39,119
from washington state oh i have a great

3078
02:06:43,109 --> 02:06:40,239
question about

3079
02:06:44,629 --> 02:06:43,119
yes about um so have you talked to

3080
02:06:50,310 --> 02:06:44,639
luella lazanda by chance about

3081
02:06:53,589 --> 02:06:52,790
on these ufos you mean did i talk to lou

3082
02:06:57,270 --> 02:06:53,599
today

3083
02:06:58,709 --> 02:06:57,280
all just not all about it because i feel

3084
02:07:00,870 --> 02:06:58,719
like that was a pretty

3085
02:07:01,830 --> 02:07:00,880
interesting thing to find out that we're

3086
02:07:03,750 --> 02:07:01,840
supposedly

3087
02:07:06,390 --> 02:07:03,760
you know emptying these things right out

3088
02:07:08,950 --> 02:07:06,400
of the sky like it's

3089
02:07:10,709 --> 02:07:08,960
nothing no sorry christian i didn't talk

3090
02:07:13,910 --> 02:07:10,719
to lou today man

3091
02:07:16,310 --> 02:07:13,920
and uh but generally

3092
02:07:18,390 --> 02:07:16,320
no i've i've never gone into uh that

3093
02:07:20,470 --> 02:07:18,400
aspect uh with lou

3094
02:07:21,750 --> 02:07:20,480
but you've reminded me and i wrote it

3095
02:07:24,310 --> 02:07:21,760
down

3096
02:07:25,430 --> 02:07:24,320
okay to uh to ask him about this so the

3097
02:07:28,629 --> 02:07:25,440
next time

3098
02:07:30,390 --> 02:07:28,639
uh i chat with lou i will let you know

3099
02:07:32,629 --> 02:07:30,400
and then i'll mention it on the show

3100
02:07:34,950 --> 02:07:32,639
okay

3101
02:07:35,830 --> 02:07:34,960
thank you man all right uh have a great

3102
02:07:41,589 --> 02:07:35,840
night

3103
02:07:45,510 --> 02:07:41,599
and uh the um 747-2282

3104
02:07:49,830 --> 02:07:45,520
and uh um i'm gonna continue lining

3105
02:07:52,870 --> 02:07:49,840
things up here 747-2282051

3106
02:07:57,270 --> 02:07:52,880
um you you brought up lou

3107
02:08:01,270 --> 02:07:57,280
earlier uh ron the

3108
02:08:03,910 --> 02:08:01,280
the community it's really strange

3109
02:08:04,950 --> 02:08:03,920
uh for me but you kind of expect this

3110
02:08:08,229 --> 02:08:04,960
but

3111
02:08:11,270 --> 02:08:08,239
uh the community uh a big chunk of it

3112
02:08:13,750 --> 02:08:11,280
um embraced lou immediately

3113
02:08:17,030 --> 02:08:13,760
and then there's the other half that is

3114
02:08:19,189 --> 02:08:17,040
like holding off and waiting

3115
02:08:22,470 --> 02:08:19,199
what's your take not necessarily about

3116
02:08:26,069 --> 02:08:22,480
lou but what is your take on uh

3117
02:08:28,390 --> 02:08:26,079
the department of defense um

3118
02:08:30,629 --> 02:08:28,400
suddenly becoming friends of the ufo

3119
02:08:34,310 --> 02:08:30,639
community

3120
02:08:36,550 --> 02:08:34,320
oh i i immediately embraced lou as well

3121
02:08:37,589 --> 02:08:36,560
i thought here's a hero here's a guy

3122
02:08:41,189 --> 02:08:37,599
who's

3123
02:08:43,910 --> 02:08:41,199
bailed on his gig

3124
02:08:47,109 --> 02:08:43,920
to give us the truth right so i

3125
02:08:50,390 --> 02:08:47,119
immediately embraced his take on it

3126
02:08:52,950 --> 02:08:50,400
but as we always have to do with these

3127
02:08:56,229 --> 02:08:52,960
topics we have to keep an open mind

3128
02:08:59,350 --> 02:08:56,239
and balancing that take with

3129
02:09:03,589 --> 02:08:59,360
as i said dr steven grier's take that

3130
02:09:06,709 --> 02:09:03,599
uh it's not a threat um

3131
02:09:08,790 --> 02:09:06,719
and how much disinformation jimmy have

3132
02:09:12,069 --> 02:09:08,800
we been fed for the last seven

3133
02:09:12,629 --> 02:09:12,079
or more decades how much disinformation

3134
02:09:16,149 --> 02:09:12,639
has come

3135
02:09:18,069 --> 02:09:16,159
out and how many people have changed

3136
02:09:18,790 --> 02:09:18,079
their tune even uh the governor of

3137
02:09:22,390 --> 02:09:18,800
arizona

3138
02:09:24,870 --> 02:09:22,400
lights

3139
02:09:27,109 --> 02:09:24,880
uh occurred he made a joke out of it

3140
02:09:29,109 --> 02:09:27,119
with this alien on stage and then

3141
02:09:31,430 --> 02:09:29,119
turned around years later and said yeah

3142
02:09:34,470 --> 02:09:31,440
i saw it too man it was it was real

3143
02:09:36,629 --> 02:09:34,480
so we're always gonna have to be

3144
02:09:38,310 --> 02:09:36,639
cautious of disinformation we have to

3145
02:09:41,510 --> 02:09:38,320
keep an open mind

3146
02:09:44,390 --> 02:09:41,520
and i did enjoy lou's

3147
02:09:45,189 --> 02:09:44,400
television show and especially the

3148
02:09:48,550 --> 02:09:45,199
footage

3149
02:09:49,990 --> 02:09:48,560
the interviews with some of the service

3150
02:09:52,629 --> 02:09:50,000
personnel that

3151
02:09:55,270 --> 02:09:52,639
seemed to be absolutely legit and

3152
02:09:59,030 --> 02:09:55,280
admitting what they had seen

3153
02:10:02,470 --> 02:09:59,040
but now i am

3154
02:10:06,470 --> 02:10:02,480
cautiously uh pessimistic i guess

3155
02:10:08,709 --> 02:10:06,480
because of my embrace of of dr stephen

3156
02:10:12,270 --> 02:10:08,719
grier's take on the fact that

3157
02:10:15,669 --> 02:10:12,280
these people are potentially potentially

3158
02:10:19,030 --> 02:10:15,679
manufacturing a threat that isn't there

3159
02:10:25,589 --> 02:10:19,040
do you um uh

3160
02:10:28,870 --> 02:10:27,430
a false flag let's just go straight

3161
02:10:32,149 --> 02:10:28,880
there sure and

3162
02:10:34,950 --> 02:10:32,159
what would be involved in a false

3163
02:10:36,149 --> 02:10:34,960
flag um and then people have brought up

3164
02:10:38,709 --> 02:10:36,159
project bluebeam

3165
02:10:40,390 --> 02:10:38,719
and when they bring up bluebeam i don't

3166
02:10:43,589 --> 02:10:40,400
think that they realize that

3167
02:10:46,709 --> 02:10:43,599
uh that was uh you know that was

3168
02:10:49,669 --> 02:10:46,719
a part of a science fiction book and

3169
02:10:49,990 --> 02:10:49,679
and and things and and that's how that

3170
02:10:51,990 --> 02:10:50,000
was

3171
02:10:53,510 --> 02:10:52,000
introduced in the into the community

3172
02:10:55,910 --> 02:10:53,520
there wasn't really a

3173
02:10:58,629 --> 02:10:55,920
a project blue beam on the books with

3174
02:11:01,750 --> 02:10:58,639
the department of defense not to say

3175
02:11:04,069 --> 02:11:01,760
that we couldn't have the technology

3176
02:11:05,830 --> 02:11:04,079
of projecting stuff up into the clouds

3177
02:11:09,750 --> 02:11:05,840
and there were reports of us doing that

3178
02:11:09,990 --> 02:11:09,760
in iraq and and causing the iraqi army

3179
02:11:12,629 --> 02:11:10,000
to

3180
02:11:13,510 --> 02:11:12,639
lose their minds and and seeing things

3181
02:11:17,109 --> 02:11:13,520
up in the clouds

3182
02:11:18,470 --> 02:11:17,119
sure absolutely and we do have that

3183
02:11:21,669 --> 02:11:18,480
technology

3184
02:11:25,030 --> 02:11:21,679
and uh we are able to

3185
02:11:27,750 --> 02:11:25,040
uh project movies now

3186
02:11:29,510 --> 02:11:27,760
in our living rooms with with projectors

3187
02:11:32,390 --> 02:11:29,520
and if it's that simple

3188
02:11:33,750 --> 02:11:32,400
for us to have an led projector the size

3189
02:11:36,310 --> 02:11:33,760
of a cell phone and

3190
02:11:37,510 --> 02:11:36,320
and watch a high definition movie what

3191
02:11:40,229 --> 02:11:37,520
could be projected

3192
02:11:41,030 --> 02:11:40,239
up into the sky all right yeah and and

3193
02:11:44,149 --> 02:11:41,040
we've all seen

3194
02:11:46,470 --> 02:11:44,159
tupac's uh you know uh

3195
02:11:47,589 --> 02:11:46,480
and ronnie james dio was brought back to

3196
02:11:51,109 --> 02:11:47,599
life on

3197
02:11:55,109 --> 02:11:51,119
on stage and so to have these three

3198
02:11:58,229 --> 02:11:55,119
3d um holographic images right there

3199
02:12:01,830 --> 02:11:58,239
um and so forth so

3200
02:12:05,669 --> 02:12:01,840
i i get that but a false flag

3201
02:12:08,310 --> 02:12:05,679
as the way that richard dolan

3202
02:12:09,510 --> 02:12:08,320
uh speaks about this a false flag

3203
02:12:13,030 --> 02:12:09,520
happens

3204
02:12:16,470 --> 02:12:13,040
big and instantaneous and it's now

3205
02:12:19,510 --> 02:12:16,480
it's there for shock a false flag

3206
02:12:23,030 --> 02:12:19,520
that has spread out over decades with

3207
02:12:25,910 --> 02:12:23,040
a fake alien invasion

3208
02:12:27,109 --> 02:12:25,920
doesn't have the same impact you know

3209
02:12:30,470 --> 02:12:27,119
what i mean

3210
02:12:32,950 --> 02:12:30,480
absolutely but usually man i

3211
02:12:35,189 --> 02:12:32,960
i'm treading on dangerous ground here as

3212
02:12:37,030 --> 02:12:35,199
a entertainer musician

3213
02:12:39,589 --> 02:12:37,040
my comments on your show could be

3214
02:12:41,750 --> 02:12:39,599
worldwide tomorrow on blabbermouth

3215
02:12:44,629 --> 02:12:41,760
you know mike [\h__\h] my friend from white

3216
02:12:49,669 --> 02:12:44,639
lion got in the same

3217
02:12:56,229 --> 02:12:52,790
spoke about 911 being a false flag

3218
02:12:58,069 --> 02:12:56,239
and mike has been very vocal about that

3219
02:12:59,109 --> 02:12:58,079
we have talked about it on my radio show

3220
02:13:03,030 --> 02:12:59,119
as well

3221
02:13:06,149 --> 02:13:03,040
about 911 whether it's pearl harbor

3222
02:13:09,430 --> 02:13:06,159
the uss cole a number of what

3223
02:13:11,270 --> 02:13:09,440
could be construed as false flags it

3224
02:13:13,669 --> 02:13:11,280
would be an attack jimmy wouldn't it

3225
02:13:14,870 --> 02:13:13,679
wouldn't it be some type of attack that

3226
02:13:17,350 --> 02:13:14,880
they would blame

3227
02:13:17,910 --> 02:13:17,360
on aliens it wouldn't necessarily have

3228
02:13:21,189 --> 02:13:17,920
to be

3229
02:13:24,310 --> 02:13:21,199
aliens there's some destruction

3230
02:13:26,390 --> 02:13:24,320
or some type of attack on u.s

3231
02:13:28,069 --> 02:13:26,400
assets at military base an aircraft

3232
02:13:31,990 --> 02:13:28,079
carrier whatever

3233
02:13:35,109 --> 02:13:32,000
that they could attribute

3234
02:13:36,550 --> 02:13:35,119
on yes on a on an alien invasion

3235
02:13:38,870 --> 02:13:36,560
they wouldn't necessarily have to

3236
02:13:41,589 --> 02:13:38,880
project holograms in the air

3237
02:13:43,350 --> 02:13:41,599
they could say look we've just lost an

3238
02:13:44,229 --> 02:13:43,360
aircraft carrier because of an alien

3239
02:13:46,149 --> 02:13:44,239
attack and

3240
02:13:47,750 --> 02:13:46,159
everybody not everybody but a lot of

3241
02:13:49,870 --> 02:13:47,760
people would buy in man

3242
02:13:51,350 --> 02:13:49,880
yeah and uh uh

3243
02:13:54,870 --> 02:13:51,360
[Music]

3244
02:13:57,990 --> 02:13:54,880
having something that isn't uh you know

3245
02:14:01,030 --> 02:13:58,000
look the independence day

3246
02:14:03,189 --> 02:14:01,040
scenario right over los angeles or

3247
02:14:05,750 --> 02:14:03,199
blowing up the white house

3248
02:14:07,669 --> 02:14:05,760
that is one thing and i think that's

3249
02:14:10,709 --> 02:14:07,679
what a lot of us picture

3250
02:14:12,470 --> 02:14:10,719
but a much easier version

3251
02:14:14,229 --> 02:14:12,480
of that is something that isn't

3252
02:14:17,589 --> 02:14:14,239
witnessed by anybody

3253
02:14:19,750 --> 02:14:17,599
which is uh you know a u.s navy

3254
02:14:20,870 --> 02:14:19,760
boat or submarine out in the middle of

3255
02:14:24,069 --> 02:14:20,880
the ocean

3256
02:14:27,270 --> 02:14:24,079
is suddenly attacked by a tic tac

3257
02:14:28,470 --> 02:14:27,280
and the submarine is lost the the ship

3258
02:14:31,589 --> 02:14:28,480
is sunk

3259
02:14:34,950 --> 02:14:31,599
and we've got an alien invasion

3260
02:14:37,109 --> 02:14:34,960
that's the that is the fake alien

3261
02:14:40,149 --> 02:14:37,119
invasion that scares me that would be

3262
02:14:41,669 --> 02:14:40,159
easy to do and you bring up look you

3263
02:14:45,030 --> 02:14:41,679
bring up the best point

3264
02:14:48,069 --> 02:14:45,040
and this is it just me saying it

3265
02:14:49,669 --> 02:14:48,079
out loud i don't want to give anybody a

3266
02:14:52,149 --> 02:14:49,679
good idea

3267
02:14:53,109 --> 02:14:52,159
all right i don't even like talking

3268
02:14:56,229 --> 02:14:53,119
about it

3269
02:14:58,310 --> 02:14:56,239
it reminds me of like a tom clancy novel

3270
02:15:00,229 --> 02:14:58,320
that gets made into a movie

3271
02:15:02,790 --> 02:15:00,239
and you see it play out and you're like

3272
02:15:06,069 --> 02:15:02,800
man you're giving the terrorists

3273
02:15:07,669 --> 02:15:06,079
a a freaking playbook right i want the

3274
02:15:10,790 --> 02:15:07,679
terrorists already have the playbooks

3275
02:15:15,270 --> 02:15:10,800
i mean i think that uh the the threat

3276
02:15:17,990 --> 02:15:15,280
of whether it's a biological warfare

3277
02:15:19,350 --> 02:15:18,000
uh a pandemic on a scale that you know

3278
02:15:21,510 --> 02:15:19,360
we just experienced

3279
02:15:24,550 --> 02:15:21,520
obviously you with firsthand knowledge

3280
02:15:28,229 --> 02:15:24,560
of you know having gone through covid

3281
02:15:31,430 --> 02:15:29,910
and i'm not saying it was fabricated or

3282
02:15:32,950 --> 02:15:31,440
planned i'm not i'm not making any

3283
02:15:34,830 --> 02:15:32,960
claims but

3284
02:15:36,629 --> 02:15:34,840
those threats are fairly easy to

3285
02:15:39,750 --> 02:15:36,639
manufacture

3286
02:15:42,390 --> 02:15:39,760
whether it's a fake assassination of a

3287
02:15:47,669 --> 02:15:42,400
president like jfk

3288
02:15:51,750 --> 02:15:47,679
or any other false flag that's going to

3289
02:15:53,910 --> 02:15:51,760
play into the political hands of the the

3290
02:15:55,910 --> 02:15:53,920
people in power and i

3291
02:15:57,350 --> 02:15:55,920
i'm just a rock and roll singer i'm just

3292
02:15:59,669 --> 02:15:57,360
an entertainer i don't

3293
02:16:01,669 --> 02:15:59,679
i don't know but i can tell you that i

3294
02:16:04,950 --> 02:16:01,679
don't trust a lot of what i hear and see

3295
02:16:06,550 --> 02:16:04,960
in mainstream media and i'm not buying

3296
02:16:07,990 --> 02:16:06,560
what they're feeding me because if you

3297
02:16:10,470 --> 02:16:08,000
watch

3298
02:16:13,589 --> 02:16:10,480
left wing news or right wing news you're

3299
02:16:15,510 --> 02:16:13,599
going to get two different stories

3300
02:16:17,030 --> 02:16:15,520
one of them's got to be wrong or both of

3301
02:16:19,990 --> 02:16:17,040
them got to be wrong i mean

3302
02:16:21,750 --> 02:16:20,000
there's no where do we find the truth

3303
02:16:24,950 --> 02:16:21,760
these days

3304
02:16:28,310 --> 02:16:24,960
and uh i just don't trust

3305
02:16:29,830 --> 02:16:28,320
i i do not trust the people in power

3306
02:16:31,510 --> 02:16:29,840
whether it's the government the military

3307
02:16:33,509 --> 02:16:31,520
industrial complex

3308
02:16:36,549 --> 02:16:33,519
eisenhower warned us about it in that

3309
02:16:39,669 --> 02:16:36,559
famous speech when he said farewell

3310
02:16:42,709 --> 02:16:39,679
and it still rings true today i

3311
02:16:45,589 --> 02:16:42,719
uh i don't trust them and that doesn't

3312
02:16:46,309 --> 02:16:45,599
mean that i'm not a loyal patriot and a

3313
02:16:48,070 --> 02:16:46,319
you know

3314
02:16:49,349 --> 02:16:48,080
i'm very thankful for the freedoms that

3315
02:16:51,589 --> 02:16:49,359
this country has given me

3316
02:16:53,910 --> 02:16:51,599
and the ability to express myself on

3317
02:16:55,990 --> 02:16:53,920
shows like this and the ability to

3318
02:16:57,990 --> 02:16:56,000
to perform and entertain and sing songs

3319
02:17:00,309 --> 02:16:58,000
about the right to rock

3320
02:17:02,709 --> 02:17:00,319
but i have a hard time trusting people

3321
02:17:05,750 --> 02:17:02,719
that have lied to me repeatedly

3322
02:17:09,190 --> 02:17:05,760
how do you um how do you

3323
02:17:14,230 --> 02:17:09,200
use your discernment

3324
02:17:17,110 --> 02:17:14,240
uh when it comes to the media these days

3325
02:17:18,230 --> 02:17:17,120
that's that's a a great question and a

3326
02:17:23,110 --> 02:17:18,240
difficult

3327
02:17:30,469 --> 02:17:27,349
i am torn i i am of the old school

3328
02:17:34,309 --> 02:17:30,479
philosophy that entertainers

3329
02:17:38,389 --> 02:17:34,319
athletes anybody who's got a platform

3330
02:17:41,589 --> 02:17:38,399
should be free to use that platform

3331
02:17:43,429 --> 02:17:41,599
like muhammad ali did it

3332
02:17:44,870 --> 02:17:43,439
nobody told muhammad ali just shut up

3333
02:17:47,110 --> 02:17:44,880
and box man he stood up for what he

3334
02:17:50,150 --> 02:17:47,120
believed in and he paid the price

3335
02:17:53,030 --> 02:17:50,160
uh people like bob dylan who sang about

3336
02:17:56,150 --> 02:17:53,040
what they really felt and believed in

3337
02:18:00,150 --> 02:17:56,160
and back then it was a little more uh

3338
02:18:02,870 --> 02:18:00,160
accepted to be politically active

3339
02:18:04,309 --> 02:18:02,880
or spiritually you know you could you

3340
02:18:06,230 --> 02:18:04,319
could express your beliefs

3341
02:18:08,150 --> 02:18:06,240
in a way that you can't do in modern

3342
02:18:09,830 --> 02:18:08,160
society

3343
02:18:12,709 --> 02:18:09,840
there are things i've said on your show

3344
02:18:14,389 --> 02:18:12,719
tonight that i would never say in any

3345
02:18:16,709 --> 02:18:14,399
other interview or any other public

3346
02:18:17,509 --> 02:18:16,719
forum because i am a broadcaster a radio

3347
02:18:20,309 --> 02:18:17,519
show host

3348
02:18:21,270 --> 02:18:20,319
a singer who people come to me to be

3349
02:18:22,790 --> 02:18:21,280
entertained

3350
02:18:25,110 --> 02:18:22,800
they just want to forget about all the

3351
02:18:26,389 --> 02:18:25,120
crap they they see in here every day

3352
02:18:28,389 --> 02:18:26,399
and they want to have a good time put

3353
02:18:29,270 --> 02:18:28,399
their fist in the air and sing along and

3354
02:18:31,910 --> 02:18:29,280
have fun

3355
02:18:34,150 --> 02:18:31,920
and that's really my primary job but as

3356
02:18:37,349 --> 02:18:34,160
a citizen of the planet

3357
02:18:37,750 --> 02:18:37,359
and a cis of the united states don't i

3358
02:18:41,190 --> 02:18:37,760
have an

3359
02:18:43,270 --> 02:18:41,200
obligation to at least support the

3360
02:18:43,830 --> 02:18:43,280
causes that i believe in or express

3361
02:18:46,790 --> 02:18:43,840
myself

3362
02:18:48,070 --> 02:18:46,800
in a way that it does doesn't hurt

3363
02:18:51,270 --> 02:18:48,080
anyone else

3364
02:18:53,830 --> 02:18:51,280
or or but

3365
02:18:55,750 --> 02:18:53,840
we have been vilified and i have been

3366
02:18:57,509 --> 02:18:55,760
i've paid the price i paid i played a

3367
02:18:58,549 --> 02:18:57,519
trump rally last year man i paid the

3368
02:19:01,990 --> 02:18:58,559
price

3369
02:19:04,870 --> 02:19:02,000
um i played a ron paul rally

3370
02:19:07,509 --> 02:19:04,880
in tampa florida back when ron paul was

3371
02:19:08,230 --> 02:19:07,519
being uh was nominated or running for

3372
02:19:12,469 --> 02:19:08,240
president

3373
02:19:20,469 --> 02:19:16,150
i was there on the bundy ranch when

3374
02:19:23,030 --> 02:19:20,479
mr bundy was being harassed by

3375
02:19:24,950 --> 02:19:23,040
the the powers to be i was there on the

3376
02:19:25,990 --> 02:19:24,960
bundy ranch and interviewed on major

3377
02:19:29,110 --> 02:19:26,000
media outlets

3378
02:19:30,709 --> 02:19:29,120
i performed that day for a party at the

3379
02:19:32,549 --> 02:19:30,719
bundy ranch

3380
02:19:33,990 --> 02:19:32,559
because i believed in what he stood for

3381
02:19:35,509 --> 02:19:34,000
and what he was fighting for

3382
02:19:38,389 --> 02:19:35,519
and i wanted to lend my help to the

3383
02:19:42,469 --> 02:19:38,399
cause it has cost me

3384
02:19:46,469 --> 02:19:42,479
and if that's the price i gotta pay then

3385
02:19:48,870 --> 02:19:46,479
so be it i am not as vocal

3386
02:19:50,870 --> 02:19:48,880
in the media as i would like to be let's

3387
02:19:52,790 --> 02:19:50,880
put it that way because it's just not

3388
02:19:55,910 --> 02:19:52,800
accepted these days

3389
02:19:57,590 --> 02:19:55,920
people you're you're going to alienate

3390
02:19:59,110 --> 02:19:57,600
half your audience and tommy lee

3391
02:20:01,429 --> 02:19:59,120
he can he can get away with that tommy

3392
02:20:04,469 --> 02:20:01,439
lee can go on social media

3393
02:20:07,190 --> 02:20:04,479
and rant and let his feelings out and

3394
02:20:09,349 --> 02:20:07,200
if he loses half of his fans he's

3395
02:20:12,710 --> 02:20:09,359
already sold 50 million records

3396
02:20:16,389 --> 02:20:12,720
i don't have that luxury yeah and

3397
02:20:19,510 --> 02:20:16,399
um i i feel

3398
02:20:23,190 --> 02:20:19,520
for i feel for

3399
02:20:26,870 --> 02:20:23,200
the uh you know uh my daughters right

3400
02:20:30,870 --> 02:20:26,880
25 26 years old now and

3401
02:20:34,469 --> 02:20:30,880
and their generations moving forward

3402
02:20:37,030 --> 02:20:34,479
i i have such empathy for them

3403
02:20:39,110 --> 02:20:37,040
because they and i don't want to sound

3404
02:20:42,950 --> 02:20:39,120
like the old guy in the room

3405
02:20:46,870 --> 02:20:42,960
but they never experienced

3406
02:20:49,510 --> 02:20:46,880
uh the way that we

3407
02:20:50,550 --> 02:20:49,520
experienced the 60s and the 70s and the

3408
02:20:53,830 --> 02:20:50,560
80s

3409
02:20:54,309 --> 02:20:53,840
where we had an absolute freedom of

3410
02:20:58,309 --> 02:20:54,319
thought

3411
02:21:02,150 --> 02:20:58,319
freedom of expression and the fight

3412
02:21:04,150 --> 02:21:02,160
for those freedoms and what we went

3413
02:21:04,710 --> 02:21:04,160
through you know frank zappa and tipper

3414
02:21:07,750 --> 02:21:04,720
gore

3415
02:21:11,110 --> 02:21:07,760
and and judas priest and

3416
02:21:14,150 --> 02:21:11,120
and twisted sister and and how they

3417
02:21:16,550 --> 02:21:14,160
they fought for uh you know the

3418
02:21:18,630 --> 02:21:16,560
the compression and the censorship that

3419
02:21:21,670 --> 02:21:18,640
was coming down on the music industry

3420
02:21:24,550 --> 02:21:21,680
the comedy world and everything else

3421
02:21:25,190 --> 02:21:24,560
they they they weren't raised around

3422
02:21:28,630 --> 02:21:25,200
that

3423
02:21:31,990 --> 02:21:28,640
and i have a big problem today ron

3424
02:21:35,030 --> 02:21:32,000
with um the pc

3425
02:21:38,630 --> 02:21:35,040
pressure that is put on

3426
02:21:42,710 --> 02:21:38,640
all forms of of entertainment and media

3427
02:21:46,630 --> 02:21:42,720
where suddenly it's not cool to be

3428
02:21:48,469 --> 02:21:46,640
funny about anything it's not cool to

3429
02:21:52,150 --> 02:21:48,479
express yourself

3430
02:21:55,590 --> 02:21:52,160
about anything it's not cool

3431
02:21:59,830 --> 02:21:55,600
to say anything about anything

3432
02:22:03,030 --> 02:21:59,840
ever and we have to run in this vanilla

3433
02:22:06,150 --> 02:22:03,040
road i i i i'm

3434
02:22:08,550 --> 02:22:06,160
just so and i'm i'm not i i don't know

3435
02:22:10,950 --> 02:22:08,560
if i'm going to be archie bunker

3436
02:22:12,389 --> 02:22:10,960
um you know to take it to the extreme

3437
02:22:15,270 --> 02:22:12,399
but if you think about

3438
02:22:16,950 --> 02:22:15,280
you know richard pryor or don rickles or

3439
02:22:20,469 --> 02:22:16,960
even eddie murphy

3440
02:22:23,990 --> 02:22:20,479
or or the things that were george carlin

3441
02:22:27,190 --> 02:22:24,000
george carlin mel brooks right yeah

3442
02:22:30,950 --> 02:22:27,200
and and and and and and the

3443
02:22:34,150 --> 02:22:30,960
joy that we had in life of not worrying

3444
02:22:37,030 --> 02:22:34,160
about censoring yourself

3445
02:22:38,389 --> 02:22:37,040
and and i'm i'm i'm really i'm really

3446
02:22:40,389 --> 02:22:38,399
worried about

3447
02:22:42,870 --> 02:22:40,399
what what it is what is it going to be

3448
02:22:46,230 --> 02:22:42,880
like in 50 years i'm going to be gone

3449
02:22:49,110 --> 02:22:46,240
you know but but what is it

3450
02:22:50,550 --> 02:22:49,120
uh that is going to be missing from

3451
02:22:53,190 --> 02:22:50,560
freedom of expression

3452
02:22:53,750 --> 02:22:53,200
and the joy of truth man and that's what

3453
02:22:56,389 --> 02:22:53,760
that's what

3454
02:22:56,870 --> 02:22:56,399
shows like fade to black and all the

3455
02:22:59,349 --> 02:22:56,880
other

3456
02:23:00,150 --> 02:22:59,359
great shows that you've been a part of

3457
02:23:03,349 --> 02:23:00,160
you're all

3458
02:23:08,070 --> 02:23:03,359
we're all searching for the truth

3459
02:23:11,670 --> 02:23:08,080
and when they censor

3460
02:23:13,590 --> 02:23:11,680
our ability to take that journey or to

3461
02:23:16,830 --> 02:23:13,600
search for the truth

3462
02:23:20,950 --> 02:23:16,840
then we're in big trouble man and

3463
02:23:23,910 --> 02:23:20,960
uh the the world has changed

3464
02:23:25,590 --> 02:23:23,920
i uh i enjoy platforms like this where

3465
02:23:29,190 --> 02:23:25,600
you can express yourself

3466
02:23:31,750 --> 02:23:29,200
on topics that

3467
02:23:33,110 --> 02:23:31,760
are you know we're not wearing tin foil

3468
02:23:35,030 --> 02:23:33,120
hats here man we're just looking we're

3469
02:23:36,710 --> 02:23:35,040
just looking for answers you know we're

3470
02:23:39,190 --> 02:23:36,720
we're trying to find the truth whether

3471
02:23:43,270 --> 02:23:39,200
it's spiritual

3472
02:23:46,309 --> 02:23:43,280
political uh medical

3473
02:23:47,670 --> 02:23:46,319
whatever i mean you've been through

3474
02:23:50,309 --> 02:23:47,680
and you know recently since the last

3475
02:23:54,389 --> 02:23:50,319
time we spoke your bout with covid

3476
02:23:57,830 --> 02:23:54,399
has that changed your take on

3477
02:24:00,550 --> 02:23:57,840
the pandemic or where it came from

3478
02:24:01,030 --> 02:24:00,560
why it's here and where it's going well

3479
02:24:02,389 --> 02:24:01,040
um

3480
02:24:04,070 --> 02:24:02,399
and that's interesting that you bring

3481
02:24:04,790 --> 02:24:04,080
that up because when you were on the

3482
02:24:08,070 --> 02:24:04,800
show

3483
02:24:09,750 --> 02:24:08,080
last that was um

3484
02:24:12,070 --> 02:24:09,760
october of last year and that was a

3485
02:24:15,429 --> 02:24:12,080
month before i got covered

3486
02:24:19,110 --> 02:24:15,439
and i got kovid on thanksgiving

3487
02:24:21,349 --> 02:24:19,120
of 2020. and leading up to that because

3488
02:24:22,469 --> 02:24:21,359
i take a lot of supplements and vitamins

3489
02:24:25,510 --> 02:24:22,479
and things and

3490
02:24:28,950 --> 02:24:25,520
and i'm drinking teas and and i hadn't

3491
02:24:30,150 --> 02:24:28,960
been sick in 10 years you know i mean i

3492
02:24:33,270 --> 02:24:30,160
haven't had a cold

3493
02:24:35,750 --> 02:24:33,280
and and i i'm feeling pretty invincible

3494
02:24:40,309 --> 02:24:35,760
and you know keep my immune system up

3495
02:24:44,070 --> 02:24:40,319
well um uh and it's not a matter of

3496
02:24:45,510 --> 02:24:44,080
of uh vaccines or or going down that

3497
02:24:47,429 --> 02:24:45,520
conspiracy road

3498
02:24:49,910 --> 02:24:47,439
you know to do or not you know to be or

3499
02:24:51,960 --> 02:24:49,920
not to be it's not about any of that

3500
02:24:53,270 --> 02:24:51,970
but when um

3501
02:24:57,030 --> 02:24:53,280
[Music]

3502
02:24:59,750 --> 02:24:57,040
uh my freedoms in los angeles

3503
02:25:02,389 --> 02:24:59,760
uh when when newsom you know did the

3504
02:25:05,030 --> 02:25:02,399
lockdown and stuff and i had to get

3505
02:25:07,270 --> 02:25:05,040
uh there were things going on in la and

3506
02:25:10,870 --> 02:25:07,280
i got a homeland security letter from

3507
02:25:13,349 --> 02:25:10,880
premier radio so i could go

3508
02:25:14,550 --> 02:25:13,359
you know to coast to coast and and you

3509
02:25:16,950 --> 02:25:14,560
know because we had

3510
02:25:17,750 --> 02:25:16,960
we had the lockdowns and things and and

3511
02:25:21,110 --> 02:25:17,760
that was

3512
02:25:24,389 --> 02:25:21,120
really pretty freaky for me

3513
02:25:26,150 --> 02:25:24,399
and and to go to the coast offices

3514
02:25:27,510 --> 02:25:26,160
you know it's a multi-floor building you

3515
02:25:30,790 --> 02:25:27,520
know the building um

3516
02:25:33,910 --> 02:25:30,800
right there on ventura boulevard and uh

3517
02:25:36,630 --> 02:25:33,920
um to be the only one there and all of

3518
02:25:39,030 --> 02:25:36,640
these signs and bio hazards and the

3519
02:25:41,750 --> 02:25:39,040
requirements and masks and

3520
02:25:43,670 --> 02:25:41,760
and what was going on there um and there

3521
02:25:45,910 --> 02:25:43,680
were employees that were

3522
02:25:47,590 --> 02:25:45,920
uh engineers for the show that had

3523
02:25:50,870 --> 02:25:47,600
gotten coveted and

3524
02:25:53,190 --> 02:25:50,880
it was a skeleton crew literally

3525
02:25:54,870 --> 02:25:53,200
um and so going through all of that and

3526
02:25:57,910 --> 02:25:54,880
then suddenly

3527
02:25:59,429 --> 02:25:57,920
getting covered and what i didn't want

3528
02:26:02,630 --> 02:25:59,439
to do

3529
02:26:04,870 --> 02:26:02,640
was uh before i got covered was

3530
02:26:05,990 --> 02:26:04,880
discuss any of this stuff on the air ron

3531
02:26:08,070 --> 02:26:06,000
because i didn't want

3532
02:26:09,670 --> 02:26:08,080
to divide the audience i also didn't

3533
02:26:11,830 --> 02:26:09,680
know what was true

3534
02:26:13,110 --> 02:26:11,840
i there are all of these conspiracy

3535
02:26:15,830 --> 02:26:13,120
theories going around and

3536
02:26:16,230 --> 02:26:15,840
i don't know and i don't want to project

3537
02:26:19,670 --> 02:26:16,240
uh

3538
02:26:21,670 --> 02:26:19,680
or say the wrong things and and i

3539
02:26:24,950 --> 02:26:21,680
and i had to be very cautious and

3540
02:26:28,070 --> 02:26:24,960
suddenly i found myself censoring myself

3541
02:26:31,270 --> 02:26:28,080
then i got coveted and

3542
02:26:34,790 --> 02:26:31,280
i got sick

3543
02:26:35,830 --> 02:26:34,800
and to have it hit me hit my daughter

3544
02:26:39,110 --> 02:26:35,840
hit my wife

3545
02:26:42,230 --> 02:26:39,120
um members of my family

3546
02:26:44,230 --> 02:26:42,240
and in a matter of uh just a few days

3547
02:26:45,830 --> 02:26:44,240
seven eight nine ten of us all go down

3548
02:26:49,429 --> 02:26:45,840
at the same time

3549
02:26:52,710 --> 02:26:49,439
and some of us are in the hospital and

3550
02:26:54,150 --> 02:26:52,720
and i after about a week i decided to go

3551
02:26:55,830 --> 02:26:54,160
on the air and i told everybody what

3552
02:27:01,670 --> 02:26:55,840
happened i got covered

3553
02:27:05,270 --> 02:27:01,680
and um this is what flipped me out

3554
02:27:07,190 --> 02:27:05,280
i don't want to this day

3555
02:27:09,429 --> 02:27:07,200
i don't want anybody to get it and then

3556
02:27:11,110 --> 02:27:09,439
give it to somebody that they love

3557
02:27:13,349 --> 02:27:11,120
you don't want to experience what i

3558
02:27:13,830 --> 02:27:13,359
experience you know seeing a family

3559
02:27:16,950 --> 02:27:13,840
member

3560
02:27:18,309 --> 02:27:16,960
suffer right because i've got it and now

3561
02:27:21,590 --> 02:27:18,319
it's being spread

3562
02:27:22,710 --> 02:27:21,600
and and and things that's was the waking

3563
02:27:25,349 --> 02:27:22,720
up for me

3564
02:27:25,910 --> 02:27:25,359
was the pain that i was going through

3565
02:27:29,190 --> 02:27:25,920
and

3566
02:27:31,910 --> 02:27:29,200
the questions of am i going to live

3567
02:27:34,150 --> 02:27:31,920
um and and then turning around and

3568
02:27:36,870 --> 02:27:34,160
giving it to somebody that you love

3569
02:27:38,630 --> 02:27:36,880
i didn't want any of my audience to to

3570
02:27:41,349 --> 02:27:38,640
go through that and i could only

3571
02:27:41,830 --> 02:27:41,359
share my experience so that's what

3572
02:27:45,429 --> 02:27:41,840
really

3573
02:27:48,469 --> 02:27:45,439
changed me is that um

3574
02:27:51,349 --> 02:27:48,479
uh i don't know

3575
02:27:52,550 --> 02:27:51,359
what it's gonna take for people not to

3576
02:27:56,309 --> 02:27:52,560
infect others

3577
02:28:00,150 --> 02:27:56,319
or to get infected i don't know if it's

3578
02:28:02,070 --> 02:28:00,160
uh you know vaccines or not or just

3579
02:28:04,469 --> 02:28:02,080
socially distancing

3580
02:28:06,230 --> 02:28:04,479
staying at home i don't know or do we

3581
02:28:08,469 --> 02:28:06,240
just ride this out

3582
02:28:10,070 --> 02:28:08,479
do we write this out like flu every

3583
02:28:13,030 --> 02:28:10,080
single year and then

3584
02:28:13,990 --> 02:28:13,040
you know we the flu comes through every

3585
02:28:16,309 --> 02:28:14,000
year and

3586
02:28:17,190 --> 02:28:16,319
you either get a flu vaccine or you

3587
02:28:19,110 --> 02:28:17,200
don't

3588
02:28:21,270 --> 02:28:19,120
and then we just go through it every

3589
02:28:25,270 --> 02:28:21,280
year is it gonna be like this

3590
02:28:28,070 --> 02:28:25,280
uh for i don't know i don't know it's uh

3591
02:28:28,469 --> 02:28:28,080
it was and i don't think the authorities

3592
02:28:30,550 --> 02:28:28,479
know

3593
02:28:31,670 --> 02:28:30,560
either jimmy that's the problem is that

3594
02:28:34,469 --> 02:28:31,680
they're claiming

3595
02:28:36,309 --> 02:28:34,479
to have all the answers and they don't

3596
02:28:37,270 --> 02:28:36,319
just like you don't you've been through

3597
02:28:41,270 --> 02:28:37,280
it

3598
02:28:41,750 --> 02:28:41,280
uh i certainly don't want to go through

3599
02:28:46,469 --> 02:28:41,760
it

3600
02:28:52,070 --> 02:28:46,479
wife and and

3601
02:28:55,670 --> 02:28:52,080
i have uh i've had a difficult

3602
02:28:57,349 --> 02:28:55,680
time addressing that topic i did a film

3603
02:28:59,270 --> 02:28:57,359
which has just been now released to

3604
02:29:01,110 --> 02:28:59,280
syndication it's on the airplanes it's a

3605
02:29:03,670 --> 02:29:01,120
it's a big deal it's it's a

3606
02:29:05,830 --> 02:29:03,680
time capsule of what the entertainment

3607
02:29:09,670 --> 02:29:05,840
industry went through in 2020

3608
02:29:11,990 --> 02:29:09,680
it's called uh it was called let the

3609
02:29:15,030 --> 02:29:12,000
music play and now it's called

3610
02:29:18,150 --> 02:29:15,040
um when the bands stopped playing right

3611
02:29:19,750 --> 02:29:18,160
documentary film right uh me jeff pilson

3612
02:29:22,870 --> 02:29:19,760
from foreigner and dawkin

3613
02:29:25,030 --> 02:29:22,880
michael sweet from striper we all are

3614
02:29:26,630 --> 02:29:25,040
interviewed in the film and and giving

3615
02:29:29,990 --> 02:29:26,640
our takes on that

3616
02:29:31,990 --> 02:29:30,000
is a very difficult decision for me to

3617
02:29:33,750 --> 02:29:32,000
continue to be on the road and i'm

3618
02:29:35,110 --> 02:29:33,760
leaving tuesday man i'm gone for six

3619
02:29:38,309 --> 02:29:35,120
weeks i'm leaving on the road

3620
02:29:39,910 --> 02:29:38,319
tuesday as we experience what the media

3621
02:29:40,950 --> 02:29:39,920
is telling us is another spike and

3622
02:29:43,110 --> 02:29:40,960
there's more

3623
02:29:44,550 --> 02:29:43,120
more danger now than there has been what

3624
02:29:46,550 --> 02:29:44,560
the last six months

3625
02:29:48,469 --> 02:29:46,560
i did the sturgis rally last year with

3626
02:29:51,349 --> 02:29:48,479
250 000 people

3627
02:29:52,870 --> 02:29:51,359
uh there and and i did uh literally you

3628
02:29:56,309 --> 02:29:52,880
know a lot of shows

3629
02:29:58,950 --> 02:29:56,319
last year during the pandemic and

3630
02:29:59,990 --> 02:29:58,960
i've got uh i've got a friend who whose

3631
02:30:03,190 --> 02:30:00,000
father

3632
02:30:05,349 --> 02:30:03,200
passed away of of covid and

3633
02:30:06,630 --> 02:30:05,359
i i get the blame for that because i'm a

3634
02:30:09,349 --> 02:30:06,640
super spreader

3635
02:30:10,309 --> 02:30:09,359
very difficult for me to bear that guilt

3636
02:30:13,030 --> 02:30:10,319
and

3637
02:30:14,870 --> 02:30:13,040
i i have a hard time wrestling with

3638
02:30:17,270 --> 02:30:14,880
these decisions

3639
02:30:18,469 --> 02:30:17,280
but as i mentioned earlier and i don't

3640
02:30:21,110 --> 02:30:18,479
want to preach

3641
02:30:22,790 --> 02:30:21,120
but man life is dangerous every

3642
02:30:25,110 --> 02:30:22,800
everything we do

3643
02:30:26,870 --> 02:30:25,120
every step we take could be our last

3644
02:30:29,030 --> 02:30:26,880
every day could be our last we're all on

3645
02:30:32,630 --> 02:30:29,040
a one-day contract

3646
02:30:35,990 --> 02:30:32,640
i i just want to live my life

3647
02:30:37,750 --> 02:30:36,000
while i can um i know that uh i don't

3648
02:30:40,870 --> 02:30:37,760
want to get into the vaccine

3649
02:30:42,230 --> 02:30:40,880
debate either but i applaud you for your

3650
02:30:43,910 --> 02:30:42,240
stance and for uh

3651
02:30:45,349 --> 02:30:43,920
for that statement that you just made

3652
02:30:46,309 --> 02:30:45,359
and i'm glad that you and your family

3653
02:30:48,230 --> 02:30:46,319
are okay

3654
02:30:50,150 --> 02:30:48,240
let's uh take a break ron stay right

3655
02:30:51,590 --> 02:30:50,160
there we got one segment left ron's

3656
02:30:53,429 --> 02:30:51,600
going to be doing overtime he doesn't

3657
02:30:54,309 --> 02:30:53,439
have a choice and if you're on hold stay

3658
02:30:55,990 --> 02:30:54,319
right there

3659
02:30:57,510 --> 02:30:56,000
this is fade to black i'm yours jimmy

3660
02:30:59,590 --> 02:30:57,520
church tonight fader night

3661
02:31:00,550 --> 02:30:59,600
open lines all night long but ron keel

3662
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is here

3663
02:31:06,070 --> 02:31:04,080
and i like to talk so we will continue

3664
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all of this after this short break this

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is fade to black and the game changer

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hey what up y'all biblical fox here and

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you are listening to my boy

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despite popular opinion reading a book

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this is kjcr jimmychurchradio.com

3738
02:35:06,230 --> 02:35:04,150
[Music]

3739
02:35:08,469 --> 02:35:06,240
welcome back fade to black i am your

3740
02:35:12,389 --> 02:35:08,479
host jimmy church

3741
02:35:16,070 --> 02:35:12,399
and uh yeah i will chop chop

3742
02:35:19,510 --> 02:35:16,080
i will chop chop in a second

3743
02:35:22,710 --> 02:35:19,520
it's my favorite thing to do and uh uh

3744
02:35:25,990 --> 02:35:22,720
ron over in uh uh the youtube chat room

3745
02:35:29,190 --> 02:35:26,000
right um uh i have the power to

3746
02:35:29,590 --> 02:35:29,200
chop chop and it's it's funny man it's

3747
02:35:35,830 --> 02:35:29,600
it's

3748
02:35:37,270 --> 02:35:35,840
and uh and if if anybody just a little

3749
02:35:39,510 --> 02:35:37,280
bit steps out about it's like

3750
02:35:40,630 --> 02:35:39,520
it's like the nfl right they do the

3751
02:35:43,270 --> 02:35:40,640
replay

3752
02:35:44,070 --> 02:35:43,280
dude makes a touchdown and they go and

3753
02:35:48,070 --> 02:35:44,080
like

3754
02:35:51,590 --> 02:35:48,080
the the thread of his

3755
02:35:54,630 --> 02:35:51,600
his his cleat is out of bounds

3756
02:35:55,910 --> 02:35:54,640
it's no touchdown right but it was good

3757
02:35:58,070 --> 02:35:55,920
catch

3758
02:35:59,910 --> 02:35:58,080
that's where i'm at i will chop chop

3759
02:36:02,550 --> 02:35:59,920
somebody in a second

3760
02:36:04,230 --> 02:36:02,560
uh-oh what what happened was it david

3761
02:36:06,389 --> 02:36:04,240
lee david hatcher children's no i

3762
02:36:07,349 --> 02:36:06,399
haven't i haven't i haven't chopped him

3763
02:36:10,389 --> 02:36:07,359
yet

3764
02:36:11,110 --> 02:36:10,399
um his imitation game he's he's trying

3765
02:36:14,389 --> 02:36:11,120
to ride this

3766
02:36:14,790 --> 02:36:14,399
out so uh uh i'll i'll let him have his

3767
02:36:20,469 --> 02:36:14,800
fun

3768
02:36:21,270 --> 02:36:20,479
if it's just if it just leans that way

3769
02:36:24,630 --> 02:36:21,280
you know what

3770
02:36:26,389 --> 02:36:24,640
nah man not here and i have that power

3771
02:36:27,990 --> 02:36:26,399
it's well all right i appreciate that

3772
02:36:29,590 --> 02:36:28,000
jimmy and i'm sorry if i rattled any

3773
02:36:32,710 --> 02:36:29,600
cages i didn't mean to go no

3774
02:36:36,630 --> 02:36:32,720
no on the covet thing my basic

3775
02:36:37,349 --> 02:36:36,640
question was was it planned or was it

3776
02:36:39,590 --> 02:36:37,359
just a

3777
02:36:41,990 --> 02:36:39,600
natural accident that happened i mean it

3778
02:36:44,389 --> 02:36:42,000
is is it is it orchestrated or not

3779
02:36:45,270 --> 02:36:44,399
it seems like it was scripted to me now

3780
02:36:48,550 --> 02:36:45,280
um uh

3781
02:36:53,030 --> 02:36:48,560
i want to talk about you on the road um

3782
02:36:56,790 --> 02:36:53,040
things are opening up and uh as far as

3783
02:37:00,070 --> 02:36:56,800
the world goes in 2020 it i think

3784
02:37:04,150 --> 02:37:00,080
uh for all of us to see

3785
02:37:07,349 --> 02:37:04,160
it wasn't just right the cruise ships

3786
02:37:10,550 --> 02:37:07,359
it was sports it was

3787
02:37:13,670 --> 02:37:10,560
nascar the nfl and and

3788
02:37:17,190 --> 02:37:13,680
tennis and and and then

3789
02:37:20,469 --> 02:37:17,200
all music venues all

3790
02:37:24,389 --> 02:37:20,479
bands and then it's not just

3791
02:37:27,510 --> 02:37:24,399
the bands it's the sound companies

3792
02:37:31,190 --> 02:37:27,520
it's the vendors it's it's

3793
02:37:34,630 --> 02:37:31,200
the merchandising it's the facilities

3794
02:37:37,910 --> 02:37:34,640
the communities that are around it

3795
02:37:41,030 --> 02:37:37,920
when when you when you crush all of that

3796
02:37:43,429 --> 02:37:41,040
it's everybody's lifestyle

3797
02:37:45,910 --> 02:37:43,439
and family that is affected it just goes

3798
02:37:48,070 --> 02:37:45,920
from the top to the bottom doesn't it

3799
02:37:48,710 --> 02:37:48,080
and the schools jimmy the schools how

3800
02:37:52,230 --> 02:37:48,720
will this

3801
02:37:55,270 --> 02:37:52,240
affect our children in the years to come

3802
02:37:57,270 --> 02:37:55,280
the coveted pandemic and the shutdown

3803
02:37:59,190 --> 02:37:57,280
lockdown and shutting down of schools

3804
02:38:02,469 --> 02:37:59,200
and so forth

3805
02:38:04,710 --> 02:38:02,479
how will our children remember

3806
02:38:06,550 --> 02:38:04,720
these times and adapt and hopefully

3807
02:38:10,070 --> 02:38:06,560
build a better future for all of us

3808
02:38:12,830 --> 02:38:10,080
now um i went uh i went

3809
02:38:14,150 --> 02:38:12,840
uh to laughlin nevada for the ufo

3810
02:38:17,190 --> 02:38:14,160
megacon uh

3811
02:38:20,630 --> 02:38:17,200
last month and uh uh

3812
02:38:22,469 --> 02:38:20,640
nevada was already uh a month open

3813
02:38:25,190 --> 02:38:22,479
right california was still shut down at

3814
02:38:28,790 --> 02:38:25,200
that time but uh so i get out there

3815
02:38:30,469 --> 02:38:28,800
and i walked into the casino to see

3816
02:38:32,469 --> 02:38:30,479
you know two three four five thousand

3817
02:38:32,790 --> 02:38:32,479
people without mask which includes all

3818
02:38:39,750 --> 02:38:32,800
the

3819
02:38:43,590 --> 02:38:39,760
it took me about a minute to adapt

3820
02:38:45,349 --> 02:38:43,600
right i was like oh it's time to party

3821
02:38:46,309 --> 02:38:45,359
right and it was it was great it was

3822
02:38:49,429 --> 02:38:46,319
amazing

3823
02:38:52,790 --> 02:38:49,439
but for you uh the

3824
02:38:55,510 --> 02:38:52,800
the fans to to finally get out

3825
02:38:58,389 --> 02:38:55,520
and to see live music they must be

3826
02:39:01,429 --> 02:38:58,399
losing their minds in appreciation

3827
02:39:02,550 --> 02:39:01,439
it is a great year for ticket sales live

3828
02:39:06,469 --> 02:39:02,560
performances

3829
02:39:09,349 --> 02:39:06,479
tour dates and so forth and

3830
02:39:10,630 --> 02:39:09,359
obviously you open the floodgates

3831
02:39:14,070 --> 02:39:10,640
everybody's going to come in

3832
02:39:15,190 --> 02:39:14,080
right we did the same thing last year we

3833
02:39:18,630 --> 02:39:15,200
did our first

3834
02:39:21,110 --> 02:39:18,640
show during the pandemic on june 19th at

3835
02:39:23,750 --> 02:39:21,120
a bike event in sioux city iowa

3836
02:39:25,830 --> 02:39:23,760
went on to play the sturgis rally shows

3837
02:39:27,030 --> 02:39:25,840
in minnesota missouri and so forth here

3838
02:39:30,710 --> 02:39:27,040
in the midwest

3839
02:39:32,950 --> 02:39:30,720
it was never as extreme as it was on

3840
02:39:33,830 --> 02:39:32,960
the coast coast or the west coast right

3841
02:39:37,190 --> 02:39:33,840
we still had

3842
02:39:39,349 --> 02:39:37,200
some semblance of of normalcy here in

3843
02:39:41,990 --> 02:39:39,359
south dakota where i live

3844
02:39:44,389 --> 02:39:42,000
my hometown is sioux falls south dakota

3845
02:39:47,670 --> 02:39:44,399
we never shut down we never had a mask

3846
02:39:49,190 --> 02:39:47,680
mandate and my gym has never been closed

3847
02:39:52,070 --> 02:39:49,200
and i've never had to wear a mask

3848
02:39:53,670 --> 02:39:52,080
to the gym and i have not stopped going

3849
02:39:55,910 --> 02:39:53,680
to the gym every day or

3850
02:39:57,590 --> 02:39:55,920
at least every other day since the

3851
02:40:01,349 --> 02:39:57,600
pandemic started

3852
02:40:02,309 --> 02:40:01,359
but a lot of the shows that we're doing

3853
02:40:05,510 --> 02:40:02,319
this year were

3854
02:40:07,190 --> 02:40:05,520
postponements from last year

3855
02:40:08,950 --> 02:40:07,200
and we're all making up for lost time a

3856
02:40:10,630 --> 02:40:08,960
lot of people are releasing new records

3857
02:40:12,230 --> 02:40:10,640
there's a lot of great new albums coming

3858
02:40:14,150 --> 02:40:12,240
out because nobody had anything else to

3859
02:40:16,230 --> 02:40:14,160
do during the pandemic but create

3860
02:40:18,070 --> 02:40:16,240
great new music i've got jack blades

3861
02:40:18,550 --> 02:40:18,080
from night ranger on my show this week

3862
02:40:21,830 --> 02:40:18,560
and

3863
02:40:25,190 --> 02:40:21,840
talks about how

3864
02:40:27,190 --> 02:40:25,200
they created that during the pandemic

3865
02:40:28,389 --> 02:40:27,200
but it is great to have it back but

3866
02:40:32,870 --> 02:40:28,399
we're all i think

3867
02:40:35,990 --> 02:40:32,880
walking on eggshells wondering when

3868
02:40:38,389 --> 02:40:36,000
the delta variant may shut us down

3869
02:40:39,510 --> 02:40:38,399
uh do i i'm leaving tuesday for six

3870
02:40:41,750 --> 02:40:39,520
weeks

3871
02:40:42,870 --> 02:40:41,760
am i gonna have cancellations am i gonna

3872
02:40:45,510 --> 02:40:42,880
have

3873
02:40:47,429 --> 02:40:45,520
uh because when you're out there on the

3874
02:40:49,110 --> 02:40:47,439
road and you're paying your crew and of

3875
02:40:51,750 --> 02:40:49,120
course that like you mentioned the

3876
02:40:53,750 --> 02:40:51,760
the crew and the support staff is really

3877
02:40:54,790 --> 02:40:53,760
uh the people that are most affected by

3878
02:40:56,550 --> 02:40:54,800
this

3879
02:40:58,469 --> 02:40:56,560
because they don't get royalties they

3880
02:41:02,309 --> 02:40:58,479
just get paid for the gigs

3881
02:41:04,389 --> 02:41:02,319
um are we gonna get shut down again i

3882
02:41:06,630 --> 02:41:04,399
think that's everybody's fear

3883
02:41:08,710 --> 02:41:06,640
and trepidation i know that uh the the

3884
02:41:09,750 --> 02:41:08,720
yankees red sox game last weekend was

3885
02:41:13,990 --> 02:41:09,760
canceled

3886
02:41:15,510 --> 02:41:14,000
the la forum because of

3887
02:41:17,590 --> 02:41:15,520
one of their team members tested

3888
02:41:19,830 --> 02:41:17,600
positive or had been exposed

3889
02:41:21,110 --> 02:41:19,840
brett michaels has just canceled his

3890
02:41:24,550 --> 02:41:21,120
first show

3891
02:41:26,230 --> 02:41:24,560
uh because of kovid so we are all still

3892
02:41:28,469 --> 02:41:26,240
walking on eggshells

3893
02:41:29,510 --> 02:41:28,479
trying to make the best of a bad

3894
02:41:32,550 --> 02:41:29,520
situation

3895
02:41:35,670 --> 02:41:32,560
yeah yeah we can't we can't

3896
02:41:36,550 --> 02:41:35,680
there's one thing that is obvious we

3897
02:41:38,550 --> 02:41:36,560
can't go

3898
02:41:40,230 --> 02:41:38,560
and turn this into a two or three year

3899
02:41:42,309 --> 02:41:40,240
thing

3900
02:41:44,469 --> 02:41:42,319
we we can't we can't do that there's

3901
02:41:47,670 --> 02:41:44,479
there's got to be

3902
02:41:51,510 --> 02:41:47,680
uh a solution i have no

3903
02:41:54,630 --> 02:41:51,520
idea do you remember how big of a deal

3904
02:41:58,150 --> 02:41:54,640
it was to have a snow day at school

3905
02:42:01,349 --> 02:41:58,160
right yeah i mean to get a snow

3906
02:42:02,469 --> 02:42:01,359
day to shut down the schools um it had

3907
02:42:05,590 --> 02:42:02,479
to be 40 below

3908
02:42:08,150 --> 02:42:05,600
zero right yeah it could be something

3909
02:42:09,429 --> 02:42:08,160
like the most extreme extreme of the

3910
02:42:12,630 --> 02:42:09,439
extremes

3911
02:42:15,670 --> 02:42:12,640
and uh but to have a a snow

3912
02:42:19,910 --> 02:42:15,680
year right that's that's

3913
02:42:22,309 --> 02:42:19,920
that's that's crazy to me i i don't know

3914
02:42:23,590 --> 02:42:22,319
what it's gonna do to uh you know an

3915
02:42:26,950 --> 02:42:23,600
entire generation

3916
02:42:30,469 --> 02:42:26,960
if if this rolls over into a second year

3917
02:42:34,469 --> 02:42:30,479
it will it will linger uh

3918
02:42:36,950 --> 02:42:34,479
the those big

3919
02:42:39,190 --> 02:42:36,960
red letter days in my life the

3920
02:42:42,070 --> 02:42:39,200
assassination of jfk

3921
02:42:42,950 --> 02:42:42,080
911 changed everything that one day

3922
02:42:45,349 --> 02:42:42,960
changed everything

3923
02:42:46,230 --> 02:42:45,359
coveted 19 that was a year that year

3924
02:42:49,110 --> 02:42:46,240
will change

3925
02:42:50,950 --> 02:42:49,120
everything for the rest of our lives and

3926
02:42:53,910 --> 02:42:50,960
our children's lives

3927
02:42:55,670 --> 02:42:53,920
and we can only hope that you know there

3928
02:42:57,830 --> 02:42:55,680
there is hope

3929
02:42:59,830 --> 02:42:57,840
uh our light at the end of the tunnel

3930
02:43:02,870 --> 02:42:59,840
i've seen a lot of uh

3931
02:43:06,469 --> 02:43:02,880
commentary this past week on

3932
02:43:11,269 --> 02:43:06,479
the uh jeff bezos flight into space

3933
02:43:17,030 --> 02:43:14,790
and i personally

3934
02:43:19,590 --> 02:43:17,040
literally and looking back on the the

3935
02:43:21,750 --> 02:43:19,600
anniversary of the moon landing

3936
02:43:23,349 --> 02:43:21,760
i think we all thought and i was there

3937
02:43:26,870 --> 02:43:23,359
watching the moon landing

3938
02:43:28,870 --> 02:43:26,880
in a hotel room in july of 1969 when

3939
02:43:30,150 --> 02:43:28,880
neil armstrong and buzz aldrin landed on

3940
02:43:32,950 --> 02:43:30,160
the moon

3941
02:43:34,630 --> 02:43:32,960
we all thought and believed beyond the

3942
02:43:35,349 --> 02:43:34,640
shadow of a doubt that we'd keep going

3943
02:43:38,150 --> 02:43:35,359
back

3944
02:43:38,710 --> 02:43:38,160
we'd have bases on the moon within 10 20

3945
02:43:42,469 --> 02:43:38,720
years

3946
02:43:44,790 --> 02:43:42,479
we'd be at mars by now we would

3947
02:43:45,990 --> 02:43:44,800
spread our wings and fly to the final

3948
02:43:48,230 --> 02:43:46,000
frontier

3949
02:43:49,750 --> 02:43:48,240
and it really hasn't happened it's

3950
02:43:51,910 --> 02:43:49,760
happening now because of

3951
02:43:53,590 --> 02:43:51,920
these uh private companies that are

3952
02:43:56,230 --> 02:43:53,600
getting us back into space

3953
02:43:57,910 --> 02:43:56,240
i don't care how they're doing it or

3954
02:44:01,030 --> 02:43:57,920
whose money they're spending

3955
02:44:03,510 --> 02:44:01,040
get us back into space get us out there

3956
02:44:04,710 --> 02:44:03,520
spread the human race throughout you

3957
02:44:07,990 --> 02:44:04,720
know the moon bases

3958
02:44:11,349 --> 02:44:08,000
mars the asteroid belt and beyond

3959
02:44:13,190 --> 02:44:11,359
and i think uh that to me i think i

3960
02:44:14,150 --> 02:44:13,200
think it's a huge positive everybody's

3961
02:44:17,349 --> 02:44:14,160
giving

3962
02:44:18,389 --> 02:44:17,359
uh the amazon guy a lot of a lot of

3963
02:44:21,110 --> 02:44:18,399
grief

3964
02:44:22,309 --> 02:44:21,120
but man he is pushing the envelope and

3965
02:44:24,469 --> 02:44:22,319
somebody's got to do it

3966
02:44:25,990 --> 02:44:24,479
man it was pretty cool watching uh

3967
02:44:29,429 --> 02:44:26,000
watching that and watching it

3968
02:44:32,870 --> 02:44:29,439
uh the capsule land in texas that was

3969
02:44:34,070 --> 02:44:32,880
i i really enjoyed that and and and even

3970
02:44:37,429 --> 02:44:34,080
richard branson

3971
02:44:41,349 --> 02:44:37,439
and what's going on certainly uh

3972
02:44:45,030 --> 02:44:41,359
also what elon musk um has got planned

3973
02:44:48,230 --> 02:44:45,040
and and i tie all of this into

3974
02:44:50,630 --> 02:44:48,240
excuse me uh this big picture

3975
02:44:52,630 --> 02:44:50,640
of everything else that is going on uh

3976
02:44:55,910 --> 02:44:52,640
you know perseverance

3977
02:44:58,550 --> 02:44:55,920
and and what is happening on mars i have

3978
02:44:59,990 --> 02:44:58,560
this funny feeling that we're gonna get

3979
02:45:02,309 --> 02:45:00,000
an announcement from nasa

3980
02:45:05,269 --> 02:45:02,319
do you think that there's going to be

3981
02:45:08,070 --> 02:45:05,279
life on mars announced

3982
02:45:10,230 --> 02:45:08,080
great question and i would not be

3983
02:45:13,269 --> 02:45:10,240
surprised by that

3984
02:45:17,030 --> 02:45:13,279
but i think they already know

3985
02:45:23,830 --> 02:45:20,309
i expect the

3986
02:45:27,110 --> 02:45:23,840
the one thing that nasa

3987
02:45:27,510 --> 02:45:27,120
needs to have happen is they've got to

3988
02:45:33,750 --> 02:45:27,520
find

3989
02:45:34,070 --> 02:45:33,760
funding and the effort that is going to

3990
02:45:42,469 --> 02:45:34,080
be

3991
02:45:44,630 --> 02:45:42,479
and and they need to find it i think

3992
02:45:46,389 --> 02:45:44,640
they are in pursuit of it

3993
02:45:47,910 --> 02:45:46,399
uh do they know more than they're

3994
02:45:52,790 --> 02:45:47,920
leading on of course

3995
02:45:54,790 --> 02:45:52,800
they do but uh nasa needs that

3996
02:45:56,870 --> 02:45:54,800
and the human race needs that jimmy i

3997
02:45:59,269 --> 02:45:56,880
think the human race needs to explore

3998
02:46:01,190 --> 02:45:59,279
needs to expand we need to keep pushing

3999
02:46:04,070 --> 02:46:01,200
those boundaries and goals

4000
02:46:06,469 --> 02:46:04,080
uh that even jfk said for us in his

4001
02:46:10,469 --> 02:46:06,479
legendary speech

4002
02:46:12,950 --> 02:46:10,479
we have to expand our horizons

4003
02:46:15,030 --> 02:46:12,960
and shoot for the final frontier that's

4004
02:46:18,790 --> 02:46:15,040
the human nature

4005
02:46:20,950 --> 02:46:18,800
and it's it's it's more than

4006
02:46:22,950 --> 02:46:20,960
oh we we have problems we can take care

4007
02:46:24,870 --> 02:46:22,960
of here on earth well if it weren't for

4008
02:46:26,230 --> 02:46:24,880
the space exploration the satellites and

4009
02:46:28,790 --> 02:46:26,240
all that we couldn't be on

4010
02:46:30,070 --> 02:46:28,800
skype right now or satellite phones and

4011
02:46:33,269 --> 02:46:30,080
all of the

4012
02:46:35,510 --> 02:46:33,279
wonderful technology that we enjoy is in

4013
02:46:36,389 --> 02:46:35,520
large part due to our space exploration

4014
02:46:38,550 --> 02:46:36,399
program

4015
02:46:39,429 --> 02:46:38,560
we've got to continue to push that

4016
02:46:41,590 --> 02:46:39,439
envelope

4017
02:46:43,429 --> 02:46:41,600
and if you had told me in 69 when i was

4018
02:46:45,830 --> 02:46:43,439
watching the moon landing

4019
02:46:46,950 --> 02:46:45,840
that we wouldn't have a moon base in

4020
02:46:49,590 --> 02:46:46,960
2021

4021
02:46:50,550 --> 02:46:49,600
i would have told you you're crazy well

4022
02:46:53,910 --> 02:46:50,560
the

4023
02:46:57,429 --> 02:46:53,920
period

4024
02:47:00,710 --> 02:46:57,439
where anything seemed possible

4025
02:47:04,950 --> 02:47:00,720
right yeah it was moon basis but

4026
02:47:08,630 --> 02:47:04,960
um it seemed like

4027
02:47:12,389 --> 02:47:08,640
everybody was behind it everybody

4028
02:47:16,070 --> 02:47:12,399
and that we were not going to stop ever

4029
02:47:17,590 --> 02:47:16,080
and then suddenly apollos

4030
02:47:19,750 --> 02:47:17,600
you know there there's going to be no

4031
02:47:21,830 --> 02:47:19,760
apollo 18

4032
02:47:23,110 --> 02:47:21,840
right what do you mean there's going to

4033
02:47:25,670 --> 02:47:23,120
be no apollo 18

4034
02:47:27,510 --> 02:47:25,680
and 19 and 20. this is supposed to be

4035
02:47:30,230 --> 02:47:27,520
going on forever

4036
02:47:32,070 --> 02:47:30,240
and and i i thought that that was the

4037
02:47:34,950 --> 02:47:32,080
that was my mood

4038
02:47:36,389 --> 02:47:34,960
right and i thought that every how is it

4039
02:47:39,830 --> 02:47:36,399
possible

4040
02:47:40,309 --> 02:47:39,840
that our government can just pull the

4041
02:47:42,870 --> 02:47:40,319
plug

4042
02:47:44,550 --> 02:47:42,880
on on all of that and the space shuttle

4043
02:47:46,150 --> 02:47:44,560
why is that jimmy what is there a

4044
02:47:48,870 --> 02:47:46,160
conspiracy theory that

4045
02:47:50,870 --> 02:47:48,880
that fits that mold that uh there's a

4046
02:47:53,110 --> 02:47:50,880
reason we haven't gone back

4047
02:47:54,550 --> 02:47:53,120
that uh or or is it the secret space

4048
02:47:55,910 --> 02:47:54,560
program i don't know how you feel about

4049
02:47:57,990 --> 02:47:55,920
that but

4050
02:47:59,510 --> 02:47:58,000
do we already have bases on the moon and

4051
02:48:01,750 --> 02:47:59,520
on mars i don't know

4052
02:48:02,550 --> 02:48:01,760
i wouldn't put it past them man i mean i

4053
02:48:07,030 --> 02:48:02,560
i

4054
02:48:09,030 --> 02:48:07,040
but

4055
02:48:11,910 --> 02:48:09,040
there's a reason we haven't gone back

4056
02:48:14,790 --> 02:48:11,920
there's a reason for it it's not money

4057
02:48:15,990 --> 02:48:14,800
and it's not uh the political agenda

4058
02:48:18,309 --> 02:48:16,000
there's a reason

4059
02:48:20,469 --> 02:48:18,319
why they're not telling us what's going

4060
02:48:21,990 --> 02:48:20,479
on in space whether it's the next

4061
02:48:24,469 --> 02:48:22,000
battleground or

4062
02:48:25,670 --> 02:48:24,479
that the secret space force has already

4063
02:48:28,550 --> 02:48:25,680
placed bases

4064
02:48:28,870 --> 02:48:28,560
on the moon mars and maybe beyond yeah

4065
02:48:37,190 --> 02:48:28,880
and

4066
02:48:40,630 --> 02:48:37,200
we apollo for me

4067
02:48:42,870 --> 02:48:40,640
seemed pretty figured out

4068
02:48:45,269 --> 02:48:42,880
right it seemed to be pretty easy now

4069
02:48:47,830 --> 02:48:45,279
we're putting cars on the moon

4070
02:48:48,389 --> 02:48:47,840
right we're just cruising there all the

4071
02:48:51,910 --> 02:48:48,399
time

4072
02:48:54,150 --> 02:48:51,920
and and and and projects it seemed

4073
02:48:55,349 --> 02:48:54,160
pretty easy it didn't seem like it was a

4074
02:48:57,670 --> 02:48:55,359
big effort

4075
02:48:59,190 --> 02:48:57,680
like it was that big of a deal we

4076
02:49:03,750 --> 02:48:59,200
figured it out

4077
02:49:06,790 --> 02:49:03,760
we were now interplanetary and

4078
02:49:09,349 --> 02:49:06,800
it didn't seem complex and and the

4079
02:49:12,389 --> 02:49:09,359
expense the research and development

4080
02:49:14,950 --> 02:49:12,399
was was already done we figured it out

4081
02:49:16,469 --> 02:49:14,960
why would we just pull the plug i'll

4082
02:49:18,230 --> 02:49:16,479
tell you this

4083
02:49:19,590 --> 02:49:18,240
and that was the confusing part because

4084
02:49:23,349 --> 02:49:19,600
it was just he did

4085
02:49:27,269 --> 02:49:23,359
we were driving cars on the moon right

4086
02:49:30,630 --> 02:49:27,279
that's right and and um but the space

4087
02:49:34,870 --> 02:49:30,640
shuttle only to be

4088
02:49:36,790 --> 02:49:34,880
in low earth orbit i never really bought

4089
02:49:38,870 --> 02:49:36,800
into that

4090
02:49:40,469 --> 02:49:38,880
if you think about uh and this is what

4091
02:49:44,150 --> 02:49:40,479
i'm saying ron

4092
02:49:47,750 --> 02:49:44,160
the uh the the command module

4093
02:49:49,190 --> 02:49:47,760
right and and what it was going to the

4094
02:49:51,990 --> 02:49:49,200
moon and back

4095
02:49:52,469 --> 02:49:52,000
and then you looked at the space shuttle

4096
02:49:56,070 --> 02:49:52,479
which

4097
02:49:57,830 --> 02:49:56,080
one do you want to fly to the moon in

4098
02:49:59,670 --> 02:49:57,840
good point right you want to fly to the

4099
02:50:01,190 --> 02:49:59,680
moon in that space shuttle which is like

4100
02:50:04,309 --> 02:50:01,200
a winnebago

4101
02:50:05,910 --> 02:50:04,319
compared to right compared to you've got

4102
02:50:08,150 --> 02:50:05,920
an rv

4103
02:50:09,830 --> 02:50:08,160
you told me your rv story about the flat

4104
02:50:12,710 --> 02:50:09,840
tire that's one of the best

4105
02:50:13,750 --> 02:50:12,720
you want the comfort and yeah the uh

4106
02:50:17,750 --> 02:50:13,760
that uh

4107
02:50:20,790 --> 02:50:17,760
that's a great uh analogy

4108
02:50:22,630 --> 02:50:20,800
why wouldn't we go back there's got to

4109
02:50:24,630 --> 02:50:22,640
be a reason

4110
02:50:27,429 --> 02:50:24,640
i mean don't you think looking at the

4111
02:50:29,510 --> 02:50:27,439
space shuttle

4112
02:50:31,910 --> 02:50:29,520
that that was designed to fly to the

4113
02:50:33,830 --> 02:50:31,920
moon and back in comfort

4114
02:50:35,190 --> 02:50:33,840
you know the command module you know

4115
02:50:38,469 --> 02:50:35,200
that's like a vw

4116
02:50:40,230 --> 02:50:38,479
bug compared to right i'm not kidding

4117
02:50:43,030 --> 02:50:40,240
it's like a hugo

4118
02:50:44,230 --> 02:50:43,040
compared to the sophistication of the

4119
02:50:47,910 --> 02:50:44,240
space shuttle

4120
02:50:51,110 --> 02:50:47,920
now but here's the trip on that

4121
02:50:52,230 --> 02:50:51,120
we would never know right citizens of

4122
02:50:54,070 --> 02:50:52,240
the earth

4123
02:50:55,830 --> 02:50:54,080
we don't know what's going on up there

4124
02:50:59,429 --> 02:50:55,840
we have no idea

4125
02:51:01,190 --> 02:50:59,439
we're not there right we don't know and

4126
02:51:02,469 --> 02:51:01,200
i i wrestled with this argument for a

4127
02:51:04,230 --> 02:51:02,479
long time

4128
02:51:06,309 --> 02:51:04,240
thinking that well the government can't

4129
02:51:07,190 --> 02:51:06,319
keep a secret of course monica lewinsky

4130
02:51:10,309 --> 02:51:07,200
come on

4131
02:51:12,870 --> 02:51:10,319
but they kept uh the

4132
02:51:13,429 --> 02:51:12,880
atomic bomb a secret until they dropped

4133
02:51:16,790 --> 02:51:13,439
it

4134
02:51:18,469 --> 02:51:16,800
so anything's possible the uh the

4135
02:51:21,750 --> 02:51:18,479
question of uh

4136
02:51:23,910 --> 02:51:21,760
uh secrecy um and uh

4137
02:51:25,110 --> 02:51:23,920
which which takes me back to the ufo

4138
02:51:32,070 --> 02:51:25,120
subject

4139
02:51:33,830 --> 02:51:32,080
well you know they can't uh you know why

4140
02:51:36,469 --> 02:51:33,840
haven't we had a whistleblower

4141
02:51:37,190 --> 02:51:36,479
step forward why haven't you know what

4142
02:51:43,510 --> 02:51:37,200
the

4143
02:51:44,630 --> 02:51:43,520
hundreds of thousands of people cities

4144
02:51:47,830 --> 02:51:44,640
in this country

4145
02:51:51,349 --> 02:51:47,840
were committed to that right got

4146
02:51:53,990 --> 02:51:51,359
cities not not a not a building

4147
02:51:55,190 --> 02:51:54,000
but we're talking about a huge amount of

4148
02:51:58,870 --> 02:51:55,200
people

4149
02:52:03,110 --> 02:51:58,880
on complete lockdown complete

4150
02:52:06,790 --> 02:52:03,120
and there are uh the x-37b

4151
02:52:07,830 --> 02:52:06,800
the x-37b it's probably up there flying

4152
02:52:10,950 --> 02:52:07,840
right now doing

4153
02:52:13,110 --> 02:52:10,960
two-year missions in space there ain't

4154
02:52:13,670 --> 02:52:13,120
anybody from that program talking about

4155
02:52:17,910 --> 02:52:13,680
it

4156
02:52:21,190 --> 02:52:17,920
complete lockdown

4157
02:52:23,990 --> 02:52:21,200
so is there a secret space program well

4158
02:52:25,910 --> 02:52:24,000
we know about the x-37b we don't know

4159
02:52:28,469 --> 02:52:25,920
what it's doing

4160
02:52:30,469 --> 02:52:28,479
we don't it's on complete lockdown and

4161
02:52:34,630 --> 02:52:30,479
that x-37b

4162
02:52:39,269 --> 02:52:34,640
has to have thousands of engineers

4163
02:52:43,510 --> 02:52:39,279
designers uh flight systems logistics

4164
02:52:46,870 --> 02:52:43,520
design flight plans crude

4165
02:52:47,349 --> 02:52:46,880
and nobody knows nobody's talking so

4166
02:52:50,710 --> 02:52:47,359
don't

4167
02:52:52,550 --> 02:52:50,720
secret space program

4168
02:52:55,110 --> 02:52:52,560
and that's only the part that they've

4169
02:52:57,349 --> 02:52:55,120
kind of let us know about ron

4170
02:52:59,990 --> 02:52:57,359
exactly jimmy and i'm sure in your radio

4171
02:53:02,630 --> 02:53:00,000
career you have had to sign

4172
02:53:03,110 --> 02:53:02,640
a non-disclosure agreement i've signed

4173
02:53:05,990 --> 02:53:03,120
i've

4174
02:53:08,230 --> 02:53:06,000
signed a number of them myself yes and

4175
02:53:10,230 --> 02:53:08,240
when i was doing terrestrial radio

4176
02:53:12,070 --> 02:53:10,240
and there are still six years of my life

4177
02:53:12,630 --> 02:53:12,080
that i can't talk about because of an

4178
02:53:14,950 --> 02:53:12,640
nda

4179
02:53:17,269 --> 02:53:14,960
a non-disclosure agreement when i was

4180
02:53:19,670 --> 02:53:17,279
doing terrestrial radio

4181
02:53:21,110 --> 02:53:19,680
and the station was the number one rated

4182
02:53:23,429 --> 02:53:21,120
rock station

4183
02:53:24,630 --> 02:53:23,439
in the market i was the number one voice

4184
02:53:27,910 --> 02:53:24,640
on the number one

4185
02:53:31,510 --> 02:53:27,920
rock station in this market

4186
02:53:34,630 --> 02:53:31,520
i would have to tell my listeners

4187
02:53:35,830 --> 02:53:34,640
what the boss told me to tell them if i

4188
02:53:39,349 --> 02:53:35,840
didn't

4189
02:53:42,630 --> 02:53:39,359
i would be fired and if i told him

4190
02:53:44,950 --> 02:53:42,640
that i lied i would be sued because of

4191
02:53:50,070 --> 02:53:44,960
violating my nda

4192
02:53:53,750 --> 02:53:50,080
so when it came time to do the weather

4193
02:53:56,309 --> 02:53:53,760
i had to here's what you say

4194
02:53:58,710 --> 02:53:56,319
there's a slight chance of showers in

4195
02:54:01,670 --> 02:53:58,720
scattered regions uh across

4196
02:54:02,950 --> 02:54:01,680
no it's it's gonna it's gonna be a

4197
02:54:05,190 --> 02:54:02,960
thunderstorm man it's gonna

4198
02:54:05,990 --> 02:54:05,200
it's gonna rain out but i couldn't say

4199
02:54:09,110 --> 02:54:06,000
that

4200
02:54:11,349 --> 02:54:09,120
because of

4201
02:54:13,590 --> 02:54:11,359
what the the boss upstairs was telling

4202
02:54:13,990 --> 02:54:13,600
me this is the weather you're going to

4203
02:54:17,349 --> 02:54:14,000
read

4204
02:54:17,990 --> 02:54:17,359
today and i would say a scattered chance

4205
02:54:19,990 --> 02:54:18,000
of

4206
02:54:21,190 --> 02:54:20,000
some showers throughout the region or

4207
02:54:23,429 --> 02:54:21,200
some

4208
02:54:24,790 --> 02:54:23,439
spin on like that because that's what

4209
02:54:29,590 --> 02:54:24,800
the boss is telling you

4210
02:54:33,030 --> 02:54:29,600
i guarantee you every uh announcer on

4211
02:54:36,389 --> 02:54:33,040
fox nbc abc if

4212
02:54:39,190 --> 02:54:36,399
cnn all of these mainstream

4213
02:54:39,590 --> 02:54:39,200
media networks is doing the exact same

4214
02:54:41,590 --> 02:54:39,600
thing

4215
02:54:43,510 --> 02:54:41,600
i was doing when i had to falsify the

4216
02:54:45,190 --> 02:54:43,520
weather they are saying whatever the

4217
02:54:46,710 --> 02:54:45,200
boss tells them to say or they're going

4218
02:54:49,510 --> 02:54:46,720
to lose their job

4219
02:54:51,269 --> 02:54:49,520
and they're going to be out of work and

4220
02:54:54,389 --> 02:54:51,279
it's just not worth it

4221
02:54:57,510 --> 02:54:54,399
just tell the company line go along

4222
02:55:00,150 --> 02:54:57,520
to get along if you have a job

4223
02:55:00,790 --> 02:55:00,160
that is especially in the military

4224
02:55:03,750 --> 02:55:00,800
giving you

4225
02:55:05,429 --> 02:55:03,760
that that benefit uh your your salary

4226
02:55:06,790 --> 02:55:05,439
your retirement your pension

4227
02:55:08,309 --> 02:55:06,800
you're not going to risk that you're not

4228
02:55:09,269 --> 02:55:08,319
going to risk your family's future in

4229
02:55:11,750 --> 02:55:09,279
history

4230
02:55:12,389 --> 02:55:11,760
just to come clean and tell the truth i

4231
02:55:13,990 --> 02:55:12,399
get that

4232
02:55:15,670 --> 02:55:14,000
because i've done the same thing and i

4233
02:55:18,630 --> 02:55:15,680
still can't talk about

4234
02:55:20,950 --> 02:55:18,640
that's the most i can talk about my six

4235
02:55:24,070 --> 02:55:20,960
years

4236
02:55:27,670 --> 02:55:24,080
during that time so

4237
02:55:30,710 --> 02:55:27,680
if i was having to deal with that

4238
02:55:31,429 --> 02:55:30,720
how every everybody in the media is

4239
02:55:33,750 --> 02:55:31,439
dealing with that

4240
02:55:35,590 --> 02:55:33,760
except alternative media like fade to

4241
02:55:37,990 --> 02:55:35,600
black coast to coast am

4242
02:55:38,790 --> 02:55:38,000
and all these other programs like yours

4243
02:55:41,510 --> 02:55:38,800
that are

4244
02:55:43,510 --> 02:55:41,520
really looking for the truth now what do

4245
02:55:43,990 --> 02:55:43,520
you make of and we just have a couple

4246
02:55:46,710 --> 02:55:44,000
minutes

4247
02:55:47,830 --> 02:55:46,720
left and you know what i'm just going to

4248
02:55:54,710 --> 02:55:47,840
uh

4249
02:55:55,269 --> 02:55:54,720
um i'm having too much fun and we're

4250
02:55:57,910 --> 02:55:55,279
going to run

4251
02:55:59,590 --> 02:55:57,920
credits in a second so i apologize but

4252
02:56:01,110 --> 02:55:59,600
i'm really sorry i i really wanted to

4253
02:56:02,790 --> 02:56:01,120
take more phone calls i

4254
02:56:04,710 --> 02:56:02,800
just can't shut up i can't shut up

4255
02:56:05,349 --> 02:56:04,720
either discussions i can't shut up

4256
02:56:08,710 --> 02:56:05,359
either

4257
02:56:12,230 --> 02:56:08,720
is is this we had

4258
02:56:15,910 --> 02:56:12,240
for nearly three and a half years this

4259
02:56:18,870 --> 02:56:15,920
mass media coverage on ufos the uap

4260
02:56:19,750 --> 02:56:18,880
task force report comes out on june 25th

4261
02:56:24,070 --> 02:56:19,760
last month

4262
02:56:28,870 --> 02:56:24,080
uh about a month ago and it suddenly

4263
02:56:31,910 --> 02:56:28,880
has stopped there isn't the ufo coverage

4264
02:56:33,590 --> 02:56:31,920
uap coverage anymore

4265
02:56:35,349 --> 02:56:33,600
what what do you think is up with that

4266
02:56:37,670 --> 02:56:35,359
i'm i'm i'm

4267
02:56:38,870 --> 02:56:37,680
i'm noticing and i know that the ufo

4268
02:56:41,429 --> 02:56:38,880
community

4269
02:56:42,790 --> 02:56:41,439
uh sooner or later it's gonna say what's

4270
02:56:45,110 --> 02:56:42,800
up

4271
02:56:46,389 --> 02:56:45,120
it's a pacifier and i'm sure you've read

4272
02:56:48,070 --> 02:56:46,399
the entire report

4273
02:56:49,670 --> 02:56:48,080
countless times jimmy and i read it when

4274
02:56:52,830 --> 02:56:49,680
it came out as well

4275
02:56:54,790 --> 02:56:52,840
and i found a number of alarming bullet

4276
02:56:56,950 --> 02:56:54,800
points

4277
02:56:59,110 --> 02:56:56,960
mainly to do with the threat the fact

4278
02:57:02,710 --> 02:56:59,120
that this is a potential threat

4279
02:57:06,230 --> 02:57:02,720
to to our national security

4280
02:57:08,389 --> 02:57:06,240
and that was to me alarming as well as i

4281
02:57:10,710 --> 02:57:08,399
had just watched the latest steven greer

4282
02:57:13,910 --> 02:57:10,720
movie and i'll keep going back to that

4283
02:57:18,150 --> 02:57:13,920
uh i think they've

4284
02:57:21,190 --> 02:57:18,160
just given us uh a little pacifier

4285
02:57:22,309 --> 02:57:21,200
to i don't i don't know that the

4286
02:57:24,389 --> 02:57:22,319
mainstream

4287
02:57:25,429 --> 02:57:24,399
audience has read that to the extent

4288
02:57:27,990 --> 02:57:25,439
that you and

4289
02:57:28,710 --> 02:57:28,000
other people in your business have read

4290
02:57:33,429 --> 02:57:28,720
it

4291
02:57:35,269 --> 02:57:33,439
so uh i don't know what's next

4292
02:57:37,670 --> 02:57:35,279
but there is some alarming stuff in

4293
02:57:41,030 --> 02:57:37,680
there if you read between the lines

4294
02:57:42,550 --> 02:57:41,040
and you see some of those implicated

4295
02:57:45,590 --> 02:57:42,560
threats

4296
02:57:46,710 --> 02:57:45,600
they could lay the groundwork for what

4297
02:57:50,389 --> 02:57:46,720
comes next

4298
02:57:54,469 --> 02:57:50,399
i'm just surprised you know uh you know

4299
02:57:57,030 --> 02:57:54,479
tucker and cnn and bbc and msnbc

4300
02:57:59,190 --> 02:57:57,040
and you know the new york times and the

4301
02:58:04,950 --> 02:57:59,200
post and the examiner and

4302
02:58:08,150 --> 02:58:04,960
and all of this mainstream coverage has

4303
02:58:11,349 --> 02:58:08,160
stopped it has just

4304
02:58:14,790 --> 02:58:11,359
stopped and and i don't know why

4305
02:58:18,070 --> 02:58:14,800
and i hope uh that it wasn't a pacifier

4306
02:58:21,110 --> 02:58:18,080
but it's like a pandora's box right

4307
02:58:24,150 --> 02:58:21,120
yeah it i feel i

4308
02:58:27,349 --> 02:58:24,160
feel funky i feel funky

4309
02:58:27,750 --> 02:58:27,359
where it was just this extraordinary

4310
02:58:31,030 --> 02:58:27,760
build

4311
02:58:34,309 --> 02:58:31,040
up we get the report

4312
02:58:35,510 --> 02:58:34,319
crickets it's crickets i don't know i

4313
02:58:37,750 --> 02:58:35,520
don't know hopefully there's going to be

4314
02:58:41,030 --> 02:58:37,760
something big soon

4315
02:58:42,469 --> 02:58:41,040
well if we we could

4316
02:58:44,389 --> 02:58:42,479
keep hoping for the truth and keep

4317
02:58:46,630 --> 02:58:44,399
searching for it

4318
02:58:48,070 --> 02:58:46,640
uh like i said i don't trust the

4319
02:58:51,110 --> 02:58:48,080
mainstream media or

4320
02:58:52,950 --> 02:58:51,120
the powers-to-be to give us the truth we

4321
02:58:53,750 --> 02:58:52,960
have to turn to shows like yours and

4322
02:58:56,950 --> 02:58:53,760
fade to black

4323
02:58:57,670 --> 02:58:56,960
to keep uh keep that search alive and

4324
02:58:59,990 --> 02:58:57,680
and keep

4325
02:59:01,429 --> 02:59:00,000
looking for the answers that really are

4326
02:59:02,870 --> 02:59:01,439
going to have an impact on all of our

4327
02:59:10,070 --> 02:59:02,880
lives

4328
02:59:13,429 --> 02:59:10,080
uh for future generations because uh

4329
02:59:14,150 --> 02:59:13,439
it is uh it is historical to say the

4330
02:59:17,190 --> 02:59:14,160
least

4331
02:59:19,110 --> 02:59:17,200
now ron uh you're heading out on tour um

4332
02:59:20,870 --> 02:59:19,120
where can everybody go and get all of

4333
02:59:24,950 --> 02:59:20,880
the tour dates and information

4334
02:59:26,950 --> 02:59:24,960
and of course your podcast ronkeel.com

4335
02:59:27,269 --> 02:59:26,960
your one stop shop for everything that i

4336
02:59:30,309 --> 02:59:27,279
do

4337
02:59:31,670 --> 02:59:30,319
please visit ronkeel.com the tour dates

4338
02:59:35,030 --> 02:59:31,680
start on wednesday

4339
02:59:37,190 --> 02:59:35,040
next week in south carolina i've got the

4340
02:59:39,990 --> 02:59:37,200
south carolina tour

4341
02:59:42,469 --> 02:59:40,000
i've got chicago for the first time in a

4342
02:59:45,510 --> 02:59:42,479
long time i'm back in chicago

4343
02:59:47,510 --> 02:59:45,520
next month ohio indiana

4344
02:59:48,550 --> 02:59:47,520
nashville tennessee at the rock and pod

4345
02:59:50,790 --> 02:59:48,560
expo

4346
02:59:52,469 --> 02:59:50,800
and i think i have nine states on the

4347
02:59:55,190 --> 02:59:52,479
agenda over the next uh

4348
02:59:55,510 --> 02:59:55,200
four to six weeks and i would love for

4349
02:59:59,030 --> 02:59:55,520
uh

4350
03:00:02,870 --> 02:59:59,040
these shows or events

4351
03:00:05,429 --> 03:00:02,880
find me online at ronkeel.com ron kill

4352
03:00:06,150 --> 03:00:05,439
you are the absolute very best my friend

4353
03:00:08,469 --> 03:00:06,160
thank you

4354
03:00:09,190 --> 03:00:08,479
so much enjoy the rest of your night man

4355
03:00:12,870 --> 03:00:09,200
thank you

4356
03:00:14,550 --> 03:00:12,880
your your invitation and thanks for the

4357
03:00:15,670 --> 03:00:14,560
audience for putting up with me

4358
03:00:17,830 --> 03:00:15,680
you know you're wearing the same

4359
03:00:20,870 --> 03:00:17,840
headphones i've got look

4360
03:00:21,510 --> 03:00:20,880
the task baby that's what i'm talking

4361
03:00:23,030 --> 03:00:21,520
about

4362
03:00:25,670 --> 03:00:23,040
i'll talk to you ron have a great night

4363
03:00:28,550 --> 03:00:25,680
thank you so much

4364
03:00:30,230 --> 03:00:28,560
ron keel ronkeel.com he's heading out on

4365
03:00:31,990 --> 03:00:30,240
tour next wednesday

4366
03:00:33,429 --> 03:00:32,000
all of the dates everything in his

4367
03:00:36,630 --> 03:00:33,439
podcast are over

4368
03:00:38,389 --> 03:00:36,640
at ronkeel.com an extraordinary night

4369
03:00:40,950 --> 03:00:38,399
tonight and you know

4370
03:00:43,190 --> 03:00:40,960
everybody that was left on hold i was

4371
03:00:44,950 --> 03:00:43,200
just having a good time and so was ron

4372
03:00:46,630 --> 03:00:44,960
vader black is produced by hill j paul

4373
03:00:49,030 --> 03:00:46,640
renee dennis and kevin announces our

4374
03:00:51,110 --> 03:00:49,040
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4375
03:00:52,150 --> 03:00:51,120
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4376
03:00:54,950 --> 03:00:52,160
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4377
03:00:56,950 --> 03:00:54,960
intro spaceboy spaceboymusic.com fade to

4378
03:00:57,990 --> 03:00:56,960
black is produced by kjcr for the game

4379
03:01:01,349 --> 03:00:58,000
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4380
03:01:03,670 --> 03:01:01,359
syndication is kgra the planet

4381
03:01:05,110 --> 03:01:03,680
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4382
03:01:06,710 --> 03:01:05,120
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4383
03:01:08,630 --> 03:01:06,720
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4384
03:01:10,070 --> 03:01:08,640
re-broadcast downloaded copied or used

4385
03:01:11,590 --> 03:01:10,080
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4386
03:01:13,110 --> 03:01:11,600
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4387
03:01:15,510 --> 03:01:13,120
black or the game changing network

4388
03:01:17,030 --> 03:01:15,520
i'm yours jimmy church i got a weekend

4389
03:01:19,030 --> 03:01:17,040
off sort of

4390
03:01:21,830 --> 03:01:19,040
but i'll be back on monday with travis

4391
03:01:22,550 --> 03:01:21,840
walton until then i want everybody to be

4392
03:01:42,030 --> 03:01:22,560
safe